Lincecum Captures NL Cy Young Award
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@ILoveKimPearson I wrote that original comment over a year ago. I retract my old comment. Halladay is not overrated. He is the best pitcher in baseaball, though, Timmy is among the best. W/L record doesn't mean anything. I feel like Timmy hasn't been quite as good since 2009. I feel as he ages, he'll mature and be even better. No hitters and perfect games do not equal automatic best pitcher. Those are incredibly lucky. Anyone can have one really good game, few do, regardless of skill.
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@Middler124 Tim's over rated... look at how he did this year they over pitched him and he's barely 500 like hideo nomo there catching on to his release...Cliff lee jump from 3 different teams in the last 2 years. battling injury and mariner run suport. He's going to be legit. Halladay won cy young in both leagues. Threw a post season no hitter and a perfect game No way he's overated. OH btw im not a phillies fan
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why do people think Roy Halladay is an amazing pitcher just because he pitched a perfect game?
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@slaughter9955 Timmy is a 2 time Cy Young winner AND A WORLD CHAMP!!! WOOHOO!!!
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That's before he let it grow, soon it'll go down to his ankle.
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@rr8999 I don't think that you understand Defense. Yes, errors can be bad, however, that is misleading. An error shows that the fielder actually had a play but messed it up. For example, a shortstop can just stand still and allow the ball the pass behind him to the outfield. That wouldn't be an Error, but, it's bad defense. Defense has more to do with range than errors anyway. Like I said, the only thing that the pitcher is 100% responsible for are Ks, BBs, HRs, etc.
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@Middler124 dude EARNED RUN AVERAGE, if runs comes from an error doesnt count in the ERA, and I said was in more innings he managed to allow less earned runs not only earned runs average
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@rr8999 LOL ERA. That is not the best stat to use. ERA is the average of runs allowed so it doesn't matter how many innings you go. If you're good, the average should reflect that whether it be 200 or 250 innings. That being said, ERA could be negatively influenced by defense. It's not fair to compare two pitchers especially when Halladay had a better defense behind him than Lee. Plus, he was pitching while hurt for a month. And like I said, he was better in K/BB, FIP, HR/9, and WAR.
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@Middler124 yes but there is one little thing the ERA, halladay allowed less earned runs in 250 innings than Lee in 212, strikeouts i know halladay had more innings and games but still he managed to get 219. The only thing Lee was actually better was in the WHIP. I really think Halladay was better than Lee in the regular season but i respect your opinion. Still I think ur wrong
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@rr8999 Yeah, and I did. He had an even better K/BB ratio, gave up HRs at a lower rate, and despite missing like the first month, pitched over 200 innings. They're both very good pitchers, but, Cliff Lee is a smidge better (especially if you look at FIP).
Tim Lincecum is the best.
slsportskid43 3 years ago 15
Greinke was finally good, Tim's been good. Cliff Lee had only one really good year so far. Roy Halladay is overrated.
Middler124 2 years ago 4