Heresies contraditing trinity

Mark Driscoll talks about some heresies contradicting the true biblical doctrine of the holy trinity. Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the only true God.

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[itsalltheory]

@magnus56j I'm not entirely disagreeing with your premise, as a matter of fact, much is consistent with my own belief. Nonetheless, I'm of the opinion that where different theories of God converge - their dissimilarities should not precipitate intolerance and inflammatory accusations of heresy; as they do in the above video sequence.

[magnus56j]

@itsalltheory Driscoll is just giving a more explicit definition of the Trinity. The Trinity can be defined and explained, since the doctrine is revealed to us through the Word of God. Part of the doctrine of the Trinity is that God exists in three persons, but is one God, because Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one in essence, who are co-equal, co-eternal, have one will, not three, one energy, not three. The fact that they are one in essense is a mystery. No one can perfectly comprehend that.

[itsalltheory]

@magnus56j really? If God is truly a mystery and man cannot comprehend God's being then how is it that creedal trinitarians such as Driscoll seem to have worked out God's character with such definitives as to discern who is and who isn't "Christian" by the framework they place on God?

[Aeschylus]

Thanks, Mark: it all makes sense now.

[magnus56j]

@ScalarPhotonZ No one can have a perfect understanding of the Trinity, because the Trinity is a mystery. God is Mystery. If God wasn't Mystery, He wouldn't be God. We can't understand how God is infinite and has no beginning or end. There are however a lot of people that reject the Trinity because they have a misunderstanding the doctine. Many Mormons, for instance, think the Trinity is saying God is one person, yet somehow also three persons. But this is not a teaching of the Trinity.

[ScalarPhotonZ]

@magnus56j While I recognise that it's right to have these sorts of discussions, and recognise the centrality of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I do believe however that it is not exclusively those believers who have a perfect understanding of the Trinity, who are genuine Christians, and so such discussions should never be a cause of division in the Church.

Love, God bless.

[ScalarPhotonZ]

@magnus56j Thanks.

I am very familiar with, and do believe, the basic notion of the Trinity - One God - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And I am familiar with their basic positions, characteristics and roles within the Godhead. However, I am aware that there are varying beliefs among Christians about the "extent of their oneness" and "extent of their threeness".

[magnus56j]

@ScalarPhotonZ Do you understand the doctrine of the Trinity? I can explain it to you in more detail so you can understand it more.

[magnus56j]

@ScalarPhotonZ Good question. In itself the Godhead possesses neither maleness nor femininity. Although our human sexual characteristics as male and female reflect, at their highest and truest, an aspect of the divine life, yet there is in God no such thing as sexuality. When, therefore, we speak of God as Father, we are speaking not literally but in symbols. You can call God "He," just remember not to think of God as one person. God is One, and exists in three equal divine persons.

[ScalarPhotonZ]

@magnus56j Do you think it would ever be appropriate to refer to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit together as "He" (i.e. singular pronoun)? For example, "He [God] is Triune - Father, Son and Holy Spirit".