More Amazing than the Incarnation of Christ is the Reason Why

Christ's incarnation was a glorious event. Is it as amazing as the reason why He was incarnated?

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[Loltortilla]

Its a very beautiful and a nice tale, though not a shred of reality, evidence and skepticism can be found here.

Nice and uplifting background music though! :)

[aTruster]

While the Eternal Son was on earth He was also in Heaven. Omnipotence is always accompanied by omnipresence.

[graceexplosion]

@krononomikon Amen, the spirit is perfect. Not merely in INTENT. But in SUBSTANCE. The spirit is PERFECT. (Yes, God does punish disobedience. Yet, Jesus has taken all punishment and God says we are justified.) This "changed heart" you speak of -- the work is complete in the moment of regeneration. The spirit is PERFECT and complete in Christ.  We are not the flesh. We are the perfect spirit.

[krononomikon]

@graceexplosion The spirit is indeed perfect, because the heart is for God. However, as Jesus said, "watch and pray; the spirit is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak".

He certainly does punish disobedience, as part of being faithful is walking in that faith. This is why, when Jesus said you must continue to forgive people in Luke 17, the Apostles asked for more faith. It's a difficult thing to forgive someone without having a changed heart... Deuteronomy 8:5

[graceexplosion]

@krononomikon May I please say this?? You're not seeing the relationship with God as I know and understand GRACE and THE FATHER and HIS LOVE for HIS CHILDREN. You seem to speak as if God is making demands, then spanking us. At the level of THE SPIRIT. God is empowering our spirits in love. He is our SOURCE and our LIFE. Our spirits bear witness with the Spirit that we are the sons of God. God is strengthening our spirits to rise in LOVE, not making performance demands.

[graceexplosion]

@krononomikon The Bible says that we are slaves of righteousness. Our righteousness is not of self apart from Christ but rather God Himself birthing us as spirits -- as His FULL CHILDREN according to His Spirit from Whom we are born as spirits. These spirits are in flesh bodies right now, because we are not fully mature. We are to focus on WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST. (God spanks flesh -- not His children in their spirits -- becuz we're entirely sanctified in our spirits.) Think.

[krononomikon]

@graceexplosion it's not work, because we're not slaves, but children - still, the father demands that his children listen to his commands, or he spanks them. A parent hates to hurt their child, but sometimes it's the only thing to do when they refuse to listen

[graceexplosion]

@anonazero Friend, please read my plethora of comments. I just have to tell you -- you have slavish fear going on that is not filial fear. I'll tell you why. You think in terms of DEBT. But with God there is no debt. "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors." God is not sitting in Heaven saying, "You owe me the debt for your sin and what you deserve." Abba Father is not like that at ALL. Jesus paid it all. Paid in full. There is no debt. There's no debt in love - no demand. Grace.

[graceexplosion]

I HAVE A PERFECT SALVATION!! PRAISE JESUS!! :) (I'm a perfect spirit born of God -- that's how perfect my salvation is. Hello.)

[graceexplosion]

@graceexplosion *Now, what happens in this BODY OF FLESH that my spirit battles is a battle for sanctification. My entirely sanctified spirit born of God (baptized into Christ) is battling SATAN to drive Satan out of this body. The sin I do -- I don't do. I'm a holy spirit in Christ. The sin I "appear to do" in this body -- is not me. The devil is the sinful nature. It's not me. I'm fighting the devil, the flesh, this world -- but I'm that ENTIRELY SANCTIFIED SPIRIT.