MMP Explaining Ontario Referendum

Explaining Mixed Member Proportional system for the October 10, 2007
Ontario Provincial Election
www.citizensassembly.gov.on.ca

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[womenandminorities]

I believe the comments in 'How does 'the list' work?, address your concerns in that - so long as YOUR contesting voice is maintained - effectively acting as a watchdog on the list system, combined with the potential of a coalition government, democracy is better served than under the 'first-past-the-post' system, where the majority of the populations vote is effectively discounted. See also 'Why MMP' for a discussion of the number of other countries that have adopted MMP.

[womenandminorities]

Please see the New Zealand Experience with the list system, you may be surprised with the implications. Also the 3% threshold potentially means many more small parties with more direct participation.

[cyclingzealot]

@canadacup List candidates would have taken 30% of the legislature. You feel powerfull with an electoral system that wastes about 50% of the votes? See wastedvotes.ca

[skjtand]

MMP will give the rise of extremist parties

[snowstormcan]

I voted to keep FPTP, and I'd do it again.

[canadacup]

The Ontario public made an informed decision October 10th. Using our tax dollars to pay for 22 more politicians and their staff at Queens Park, without knowing what the additional 22 will be doing, suggests that we need decisions made for us. Where was the implementation plan ?? The answer is there wasn't one. I won't give up my electoral power to political insiders and I'm glad it blew up in their faces !!

[jhalbgew]

forgot to add, just search for Raphael MMP.

[jhalbgew]

Check out a video by York U prof. Very enlightening. He talks about how in his research into what makes countries healthiest, he found that having a proportional system was the single largest factor.

I was waffling about yes or no, but he has convinced me that 'yes' is the way to go.

[markblue1]

Actually, in practice it's not true that the 39 end up being questionably nominated. A part of the proposed system includes that parties will have to make it public, in advance, how they decided on their lists.

Voters will never vote for parties that just put in party hacks or the same old bad suspects. The parties know this, and have all suggested that they would use very transparent and democratic means to make up the lists.

[simbrow]

this is about time we got change keeps govt honest e.i. u vote ndp mmp candidate but then u want to vote for a party that is fair

[cannelle1512]

To have 39 non elected politicians representing the wishes of their various parties and not the wishes of the people is insane. Just look at our justice system....judges are appointed and face no accountability to the public, and look at all the stupid decisions they make . Also parties decide on who their listed members will be?? That opens up all sorts of questionable nominations...I mean a guaranteed spot in provincial politics? The possibility of corruption is extreme.

[cannelle1512]

This has nothing to do with being fair to women and minorities. Half eligible voters are women and in Toronto half of eligible voters are also a minority. Why you have to bring color and sex into this is beyond me and confuses the issue.