God Exists! Part 1

Paul's claim that nature and our own inner selves demonstrate the existence and nature of God is more persuasive than ever! YOU CANNOT GET THE MESSAGE OF THIS LECTURE WITHOUT LISTENING TO PART 2.

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• argument from design
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• evolution
• afterlife

[r3neGaDeh0p3]

Another problem with the watch analogy is that when you're talking about abiogenesis, you're talking about the most basic elements of any organism. When you're talking about a watch you're talking about larger pieces. This analogy just doesn't work.

[4thstreetstudycenter]

@r3neGaDeh0p3 The most basic parts of the cell have to all be present at one time in order for metabolism and reproduction to occur. That is many thousands of times more complicated than a watch.

[r3neGaDeh0p3]

I don't mean to suggest that this is how organic matter originated only to give an example of a theory that is more plausable than "some supernatural being designed it all".

The argument here that since watches and plastic puzzles don't just manifest themselves out of their individual parts is just ridiculous. The materials used to create life aren't even remotely related to the materials used to make a watch or a plastic puzzle.

[4thstreetstudycenter]

@r3neGaDeh0p3 "more plausible" according to whom? I think accidental assembling of such complex compounds and organelles is vastly LESS plausible whether from comets or whatever--nothing but intelligence will explain it. The plastic/metal parts are an analogy.

[r3neGaDeh0p3]

One particular theory is that extraterrestrial bodies (things not from our territory, like comets meteors, etc) fell to earth in its early days and carried with them amino acids. Recently NASA confirmed that comets do carry amino acids as a key building block called Glycine was discovered on a comet by one of NASA's research craft. It is more likely that in the infinity of spare there exist some things we don't know about yet that created the glycine. As opposed to a supernatural designer.

[4thstreetstudycenter]

@r3neGaDeh0p3 That just moves the question back one step, but does nothing to answer the basic question. The presence of amino acids would be no different than what we already have on Earth.

[RadarKat73080]

@4thstreetstudycenter Godwin's Law! Twenty yard penalty!

[4thstreetstudycenter]

@preachersaredumb You sound like some kind of fascist.

[4thstreetstudycenter]

@r3neGaDeh0p3 First, this series never claimed to be "proof." That is impossible for any world view. Instead, it is inference to the best conclusion. If you listened to the later sections, you will remember that in abiotic assembling of original life compounds, information is required. Randomness is inadequate. So to is intent. These do point to an intelligent and purposeful creator.

[r3neGaDeh0p3]

Just saying that cells are 'impossibly complicated' doesn't prove that God exists, again it just proves that cells are complicated. I won't address the example of the watch because quite frankly, it's a bad analogy. In lieu of refuting the watch argument I will simply point to the scientific topic of abiogenesis. Just look through all the research and data collected, all of the theories about how the first organism developed. All of those are more plausable than a supernatural being.