@200208195 It's hard to find a comparable Lexus for the CTSV and M3/5 cars, but consider the cheapest 7 series is about the same price as the highest model LS. I admit it would be a difficult choice if there was no domestic brand in the country I lived in and prices were very similar so I can understand why the Caddy isn't as appealing for you. It would be a tough choice without the price gap for me as well, though I'm a bit of pushrod fanatic so that would probably sway me back to the cad haha
@raptorlp03 Build quality - How it is built and what materials are used, the attention to detail and the effort put into building it. That's mostly what it comes down to. How does Lexus compare to the German cars in the US market, in regards to price?
@200208195 What I'm saying is BMW has been working on performance sedans for 30 years, where as caddy has only had about 5 years yet they already make a competitive car. And I guess they aren't subsidized enough since european cars tend to be the most expensive compared to jap/us. I'm not saying BMW is bad or the M series aren't great cars, I just don't see what warrants the price vs comparable us or jap vehicles....but than again we are not in the same market so prices obviously differ.
@raptorlp03 BMW M was established in 1972, with the first BMW M vehicle, the M1, being released in 1978. My point with taking 4 years after the E60 M5's release to produce a "better" car, and marginally at that, was that it is a long time in comparison to a model's total years being manufactured.
Also, the American Motor Vehicle market is heavily subsidised in regards to German vehicles. You would pay bout 90k US for a new F10 M5, I would pay over 200k US for an equivalent vehicle.
@200208195 Well the M5 is 26000USD more than a CTS-V here in the states so taking the faster, cheaper, and in my opinion better looking car is an easy choice. Also caddy has not taken "many years" to compete with the M, how long has the M series cars been around vs caddys V badged vehicles? The first V wasn't amazing but not bad, and one generation later they are already ahead of bimmer in most aspects. They are both great cars but I just don't see what warrants such a high price on the m series
@2011laxbro Most agree that the CTS-V is quicker in a straight line and handles marginally better. But, it did take Cadillac many years to make a car that will even compete with an M5, whilst it is has (roughly) the dimensions of an M3. Do you recall how crap the first CTS-V was? Even after that, it was 4 years after the E60 M5 was released that the new CTS-V was. Also, I cannot purchase a CTS-V/ZR-1/etc in New Zealand, nor do any of those provide the level of comfort AND performance an M5 does.
@raptorlp03 The IS-F is almost identically priced to the E90 M3, here in NZ. How does it compare in the US?
200208195 1 month ago
@200208195 It's hard to find a comparable Lexus for the CTSV and M3/5 cars, but consider the cheapest 7 series is about the same price as the highest model LS. I admit it would be a difficult choice if there was no domestic brand in the country I lived in and prices were very similar so I can understand why the Caddy isn't as appealing for you. It would be a tough choice without the price gap for me as well, though I'm a bit of pushrod fanatic so that would probably sway me back to the cad haha
raptorlp03 1 month ago
@raptorlp03 Build quality - How it is built and what materials are used, the attention to detail and the effort put into building it. That's mostly what it comes down to. How does Lexus compare to the German cars in the US market, in regards to price?
200208195 1 month ago
@200208195 What I'm saying is BMW has been working on performance sedans for 30 years, where as caddy has only had about 5 years yet they already make a competitive car. And I guess they aren't subsidized enough since european cars tend to be the most expensive compared to jap/us. I'm not saying BMW is bad or the M series aren't great cars, I just don't see what warrants the price vs comparable us or jap vehicles....but than again we are not in the same market so prices obviously differ.
raptorlp03 1 month ago
@raptorlp03 BMW M was established in 1972, with the first BMW M vehicle, the M1, being released in 1978. My point with taking 4 years after the E60 M5's release to produce a "better" car, and marginally at that, was that it is a long time in comparison to a model's total years being manufactured.
Also, the American Motor Vehicle market is heavily subsidised in regards to German vehicles. You would pay bout 90k US for a new F10 M5, I would pay over 200k US for an equivalent vehicle.
200208195 2 months ago
@200208195 Well the M5 is 26000USD more than a CTS-V here in the states so taking the faster, cheaper, and in my opinion better looking car is an easy choice. Also caddy has not taken "many years" to compete with the M, how long has the M series cars been around vs caddys V badged vehicles? The first V wasn't amazing but not bad, and one generation later they are already ahead of bimmer in most aspects. They are both great cars but I just don't see what warrants such a high price on the m series
raptorlp03 2 months ago
i swear i can hear lunch control working whole video
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kombatc300 3 months ago
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fadda3 3 months ago
@2011laxbro Most agree that the CTS-V is quicker in a straight line and handles marginally better. But, it did take Cadillac many years to make a car that will even compete with an M5, whilst it is has (roughly) the dimensions of an M3. Do you recall how crap the first CTS-V was? Even after that, it was 4 years after the E60 M5 was released that the new CTS-V was. Also, I cannot purchase a CTS-V/ZR-1/etc in New Zealand, nor do any of those provide the level of comfort AND performance an M5 does.
200208195 4 months ago