Doom E1M1 like No Remorse not Master of Puppets: Read the video description. Future comments disabled

I've come to a conclusion. The only people who can't hear that E1M1 is obviously inspired by No Remorse must have no ability to hear the actual feel of songs (it's the chorus of No Remorse by the way, I can't stand the morons who try to compare the intro of NR to E1M1... ummm... duh!). To say that two songs are the same just because they share a couple notes, or one very small pattern of notes, you have to disregard the overall feel of a song. Like saying the beginning of MoP is like E1M1 just because they share a couple notes, and the pattern of those notes is similar for a split second. That doesn't matter, because the beginning of MoP is all accents, while the riff in E1M1 is a full time feel with the drums playing a beat along with the guitar. No Remorse has that same feel, plus the ENTIRE phrase of both it and E1M1 have the same feel, share the same pattern, and the notes are almost identical.

At least the MoP comparison I can see people getting confused on, because they do share a couple notes, and how they're played on the guitar is similar for a second. But then there's the people who come way out of left field and say that E1M1 is "Behind the crooked cross" from Slayer. What????? Those are the people who are absolutely hopeless. If you listen to E1M1 and think it's BTCC, you're brain just doesn't process music the way it does for a musician. Not only do those two songs sound NOTHING like each other, but E3M3 from Doom is IDENTICAL for the first minute and a half or so to Behind the Crooked Cross. Bobby Prince must have gotten permission from Slayer to use the intro because it's exactly the same. NOT E1M1, E3M3.

The whole discussion really is about a style of riff that E1M1 uses. I hate to burst anyone's bubble about the music from Doom, but Bobby Prince was not the first person to write a riff that bounces between notes like that. By that I mean playing an open E on the low string and bouncing between that and notes on another string that change. It's obvious he didn't invent that style riff because both No Remorse and Master of Puppets, regardless of which one it was inspired by (it was No Remorse by the way), they were both written years before Doom was even possible on the PC. And Metallica wasn't the first to write that style riff. Black Sabbath was doing that in the 60's. And I'm sure some jazz musicians were doing it before them. And I'm sure Mozart or Bach did it before them (Megadeth based their entire career on this style riff). So to narrow E1M1 down to just trying to find a song that shares that style of riff is to, again, disregard the overall feel of the song and the one you're comparing it to.

E1M1, No Remorse, Master of Puppets, Behind the Crooked Cross, all have riffs that bounce between notes, hanging on the low E. But that doesn't mean they all sound the same. They all have different feels. For instance; E1M1 = full time feel with drums going. Chorus of No Remorse = full time feel with drums going. Intro of Master of Puppets = drums only accenting. Behind the Crooked Cross = half time feel. By this comparison you see that E1M1 and the chorus of No Remorse have the same feel. Now, I only draw it out like this for the people who can't simply feel this by listening to the song. I can, and a lot of other people can. But for those who want to argue about it, I feel the need to make it clear.

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[dujl]

THIS GUY IS A RETARD. THE RIFF IS OBVIOUSLY FROM METALMILITIA. JUST LISTEN TO IT, FAGGOTS!

[sonicclang]

@dujl huh? This doesn't sound anything like Metal Militia. Are you deaf?

[SharkWADs]

@sonicclang perhaps I should have made myself more clear. Open E1M1 in a MIDI editor such as Anvil Studio, mute or delete all tracks except the drums and listen to it. 

[sonicclang]

@SharkWADs No, absolutely not. The drums are absolutely nothing alike. Worst. Argument. Ever.

[Anttizii]

@sonicclang do you think eye of the storm by bullet for my valentine sounds familiar to e1m1? I just heard the song and it seems like a total rip off

[sonicclang]

@Anttizii I think that's just another example that shows how common this style riff is in metal music.

[sonicclang]

@MetalSwitch95 Your friend is wrong :)

[Chubzdoomer]

Great job clearing this up. It's amazing just how many people get it wrong. I, too, am completely sick of the "Master of Puppets" references when they're simply wrong.

[PoliteMediocrity]

Check out the song 'This is Fate' by Aria. It's not so unsimilar to the E1M1 either.

[kingplutoxiao1]

People are now saying E1m1 is from Black Mayne, yet again remember how we said similar, Black Mayne copied it, and not just from Metallica, like 4 other Metal artists.

[skullcandy123456]

anyone that thinks MOP is right then there fucking retarded

[elvinsurfer]

Finally someone else who knows the actual song behind this classic doom theme I've had to do the same and play both like that to show people how they relate