Discover Important Leverage Points in Grappling

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• bjj
• brazilian jiu jitsu
• grappling
• submission wrestling.

[davefeete]

You're better off just explaining how a lever works. A tricep only straightens the arm, it doesn't pull back. That's the traps, deltoids and biceps. If the guy's tricep was taken off his arm the leverage would be the same.

If you explain that you can't use a crowbar by using the short end, that's something everyone can grasp.

[jasculs]

@davefeete I have another video explaining it in reference to the bones being levers as well. I'll put a link on this current video if you'd like to see it

[seattletcj]

Its an interesting idea. But it really just is plain leverage and has nothing to do with muscle.

For instance the triceps only job is straightening the elbow. It does not work in pulling the shoulder back.

Just as the calf has nothing to do with pulling the hip back.

But the leverage application is sound.

[jasculs]

@seattletcj Yes you are exactly right. The point of the video was to be plain and to the point. You see some people get it and understand because they understand fulcrum points, distal, proximal, etc... But most people don't. I find as an instructor to people this explanation gets more "oh I never thought about that" and more "ah hah's" then the actual explanation of leverage.

[Botamatic]

I feel like this video is trying to re-package the fact that when you put pressure on the end of a lever it works better than applying the same amount of force to the middle of the lever.

ie- grabbing higher on someone's head (further up the lever) works better than grabbing their neck (the base of the lever).

Leverage as a concept is awesome. Presenting it as "you should grab joints, not muscle" is garbage. Don't reinvent the wheel, just explain leverage like, oh I don't know...a lever?

[jasculs]

@Botamatic But if I say "if you grab the joints you'll get better leverage" I'm will guarantee you that most and if not almost all people will have a better visual representation.

The purpose was for teaching the general population. Not for the few who like to analyze what leverage actually is. Thank you for the discussion. Jason

[Gavanshir]

@Botamatic your contribution sounds a lot more like garbage than this informative video. 

[Uberboy07]

wow I never knew that! thanks for the tip. :D

[Botamatic]

@jasculs I watched the follow-up. Thanks for doing that. It helped me understand where you are coming from. I truly thought you either didn't understand the physics of bjj or you were just trying to create your own theory based on an incomplete concept. Seeing the muscle vs. joint thing as a visual cue makes a lot of sense. I'm actually planning on using that now in some of my classes. I'll give them the usual leverage speech, then the TLDR version of "when in doubt, grab a joint"

[billysue2]

@seattletcj youre right about the reason being lever length but wrong on your kinesiology.The tricep does pull the arm backward/shoulder extension since it crosses both the shoulder and elbow joint. calf-hip analogy is incorrect because the calf only crosses the ankle and knee,not the hipJason has a point about not grabbing muscle but not for the reason he gives,its easier to grip near the joint because they are narrower than the muscle belly, the difference between fat bar v normal bar lifts

[McDoodledick]

@jasculs

yup, i agree with Botamatic. It has nothing to do with muscle at all. It's simply, grab the end of the lever and you have more leverage. human limbs are just levers and if you pull on the end you get more leverage than in the middle. simple.

[jmoney1941]

Good stuff, as usual.

[mysonisbadazz]

Thanks for taking your time to make the video. Good info!