Catholic and Orthodox Churches hold talks on the papacy

The Vatican has big expectations going in to talks with the Orthodox Church. In Cyprus, theologians from both Churches are debating the papacy and how that office can be executed so that its accepted by members of both the Catholic and the Orthodox church just like it was in the first millennium.
But the papacy isnt the only issue dividing the two Christian denominations.

Card. Walter Kasper
Presidente Pontificio Consejo para la Unión de los cristianos
I think it will still be a long way. Its not only a doctrinal question because they are emotional questions of people and you cannot turn around the mind of people from one day to the other. It needs patience and lot of prayers.

Cardinal Kasper is the man in charge of dialogue between the Vatican and the rest of the Christian denominations. In theory, the process of dialogue would end when the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church and other Christian denominations like Anglicans, Lutherans and non-denominational Churches agree on sharing the same doctrine of faith.

Card. Walter Kasper
President, Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity
The main problems that need to be addressed are the ones of Ecclesiology: what is the Church, where does it find itself? Who are its ministers? Apostolic Succession, etc. These problems have consequences in the Eucharist, for example, because the ordained person is the minister of the Eucharistic celebration.

Relations between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are less tense than with protestant denominations. Mainly because of changes coming from within protestant churches themselves like, female priests, the ordination of gay bishops and divorce as an accepted practice.

Card. Walter Kasper
President, Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity
I think ecumenical dialogue is probably going to go on for longer than we thought at the beginning.

However, the process of dialogue in the coming months will be a positive phase. Cardinal Kasper says the pope may visit a Lutheran church and meet with the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, but these meetings have yet to be confirmed.

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[adamantis4657]

@Patrick59467: Yes, of course!

Because they go against the Patristic Teaching. When the Holy Fathers CLEARLY SAID: THERE IS ONLY ONE SOURCE IN THE TRINITY - how can I agree with the Filioque that says: THERE ARE TWO SOURCES in the Trinity?

NO - we ORTHODOX follow the Holy Fathers and we follow HOLY TRADITION: Therefore NO FILIOQUE which was an addition and innovation.

[Patrick59467]

u know what i am not gonna even bother arguing with you, because I can already tell right now no matter what, your gonna find some reason to reject papal authority or to reject filque

[adamantis4657]

@Patrick59467: Sorry but this is wrong:

1.) The FILIOQUE speaks about the ETERNAL PROCESSING of the Holy Spirit and his Hypostase and not the SENDING IN TIME.

Every Orthodoxs knows that the Holy Spirit is SENT by the SON. But the Spirit does not proceed from the SON.

2.) NO - because the faith was given ONCE to the SAINTS. We keep FAITH and WE KEEP TRADITION - nothing can change.

ONE SOURCE - FATHER

[Patrick59467]

@adamantis4657 well if you read scripture you see that that Chris breathed the holy spirit onto the aposles so its kinda obvisous the holy spirt procedess from both, Also our understanding can evolve and expland faith isnt a dead thing

[adamantis4657]

@catholicpeter: What have we add to the Creed?

The Creed was written by St. Gregory and we READ AND PRAY IT - AS IT WAS WRITTEN BY HIM.

The RCC (sorry but it is true) HAS CHANGED THE CREED with the Filioque - which is not only an addition BUT CONTRARY TO THE PATRISTIC TEACHING.

Patristic teaching= ONLY ONE CAUSE IN THE TRINITY - the filioque TWO CAUSES - therefore WRONG

[catholicpeter]

@adamantis4657 If the 'orthodox' are truly unchanging then how come you accept Constantinople I which adds to the Nicaean creed?

[adamantis4657]

NO UNION! Until the RCC does not reject ALL INNOVATIONS AND HERESIES.

But that will not happen!

[february17able]

The Orthodox Church has nothing commen with the Papacy and other church. No oneness of mind and faith in commen!

[gtepp031387]

@trueorthodoxfaith I have looked into the councils, I know there importance and belive them to be infallible, they are not however a complete and all incompassing definition and border of the faith. One of the cannons of the councils even states we must hold to ALL tradition of the church, the Sts the fathers, the holy scripture, the oral tradition, all, not just the councils!

[trueorthodoxfaith]

@gtepp031387 I did not state that. If you would look into the Seven Ecumenical Councils, they dealt with every aspect of the early church from Scriptures, heresies theological issues etc.. The Councils laid the foundation of the faith, with their dogmas and doctrines. Get real.