Sylvia Delivers Statement on Xogen Technologies

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[sylviajonesmpp]

The statement was delivered on November 1st.

[a1mint]

@tnguyen318 No, it can NOT work. The natural law of the conservation of energy states that you can create or destroy energy. You can only convert it. And every time you convert energy you incur losses in the form of heat.

The hydrogen that is produced can perform an x amount of work. You *MUST* spend MORE than than x amount of work/energy in order to make that hydrogen.

One of Xogen's applications which is a complete scam is using it as a heater, while a $20 space heater can work just as good.

[a1mint]

Sylvia needs to learn about science before she gets fooled by pseudo scientific scam companies.

[jeff621307]

I see the posters that are posting here don't have a grasp on what is happening in this process. It is not just about hydrogen and oxygen - it is about the oxygenation process being sped up by the addition of the Xogen process to grey water - which contains a great deal of energy. This is why they can make engines that run of bird droppings etc.

What is also obvious is that the other posters here have not actually understood what is going on in this process.

[jeff621307]

I see the posters that are posting here don't have a grasp on what is happening in this process. It is not just about hydrogen and oxygen - it is about the oxygenation process being sped up by the addition of the Xogen process to grey water - which contains a great deal of energy. This is why they can make engines that run of bird droppings etc.

[a1mint]

@tnguyen318 Xogen's sales spiel isn't even about hydrogen generation. It's about purifying water, which is what they have been getting funding for I believe. It's vastly less efficient than other methods, obviously. It takes a ridiculous amount of energy to split water in quantities.

A very bizarre business that should have never been able to get off the ground, let along get government funding.

[tnguyen318]

Xogen System is to make Hydrogen for purposes needed for. Otherwise there is no need to make Hydrogen. An electric infrastructure is here.

[a1mint]

@tnguyen318 My point was that perpetual motion machines aren't possible.

Anyone claiming to have a more efficient electrolyzer is making claims that it is possible to create energy.

And that is not possible.

Xogen is making FALSE claim.

I have a particularly big beef with this, because they happen to be in the same province in Canada where I live, which mean my tax dollars were wasted on that company (they got funding).

I'm upset to see Sylvia being used as a pawn here by Xogen as well.

[tnguyen318]

You mean hydrogen that's made is returned to run an electric generator which then is the electricity to create hydrogen? I don't think having to make a gas and using that gas to create electricity is very efficient. There's a reason why we use Natural Energy. Combustible energy (gases) requires tremendous amounts to create little electricity.

[a1mint]

@tnguyen318 It would also mean that the hydrogen could be used to run a power generator that in turn can feed Xogen's electrolyzer. It would run forever, and you'd have an infinite power source. Perpetual motion. Never mind the laws of nature, the conservation of energy, that states that you can not create or destroy energy.

Face it, Xogen is a *SCAM* ! ! !

[a1mint]

@tnguyen318 You can not create or destroy energy. That is the natural law of the conservation of energy.

If you can create hydrogen using less energy than what becomes available in the produced hydrogen then you are creating energy which is not possible.

You would have perpetual motion, because you could use the produced energy as it's own input again, in effect being able to create an infinite source of energy from nothing.

Me think you not get science much. Me pseudo science proof.

[tnguyen318]

What If I can Prove to you that we can Make Hydrogen spontaneously without much need of using electricity.