TRUTH - Dark Energy - The Key To The Suppression Of Zero Point Energy

In this video it is revealed that the so called Dark Energy relates what is also known as Zero Point Energy. This is The Key To The Suppression Of Zero Point Energy and how they brain wash our thinking.

Listen closely at 58 min. you will hear him say the expansion of the universe is being caused by this zero point energy and that as time went by the Astronomers decided to change their language and call it Dark Energy. He goes on to say that at different conferences he would ask them why are you calling it Dark Energy, there's no such thing, you know it's Zero Point Energy, and they said, well, we wanted to keep it vague.
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Original title of the video:
Zero-Point Energy Extraction from the Quantum Vacuum

Talk given by:
Tom Valone, Ph.D.
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Originally posted on Google video in 2006 as below
Free Energy - Zero-Point Energy Extraction from the Quantum Vacuum
This is Tom Valone's amazing video lecture Zero-Point Energy Extraction from the Quantum Vacuum (2004) where he gives a great overview of the various methods to extract free energy directly from the quantum vacuum to power our homes and machines. Today we face a destabilizing dependency on irreplaceable fossil fuels which are also rapidly dwindling. A real need exists for a portable source of power that can compete with fossil fuel and its energy density. A further need exists for a fuelless source of power which, by definition, does not require re-fueling. One possible source could be zero-point energy (ZPE). A major feasibility study by Valone's Integrity Research Institute placed its emphasis on the practical potential for ZPE energy conversion, especially in view of recent advances in nanotechnology, than in the theory. With primary reference to the works of Casimir, Pinto, Mead and Milonni, key principles for the proposed extraction of energy for useful work are identified and analyzed. These principles fall into the thermodynamic, fluidic, mechanical, and electromagnetic areas of primary, forcelike quantities that apply to all energy systems. A search of ZPE literature reveals that these principles also apply to the quantum level.

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[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

I'm starting the lecture from the beginning now, so just calm down and prepare for a more in-depth skeptical review

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke This lecture is not going to provide any proof of the electrical model. I was using this as a source that states that some people in cosmology know that dark energy may in fact be zero point energy.

If there is in fact not energy in space then why don’t they teach how the opposing theory is wrong? Why don’t they teach you that some people refer to dark energy as zero point energy? Just answer me that, because the way they are handling it makes them look suspicious.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs because it's unconfirmed, as you said dark energy MAY be zero point energy. Maybe! I'd probably mention it as an interesting controversial theory if I were teaching, but I couldn't claim to believe it if I don't yet understand it. That's what you're pointing to with this 'suspicious handling' and conspiracy stuff.

The scientific community just hasn't been convinced enough for it to be our current model, it's still just a hypothesis

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Do you even think when you write? Black holes are JUST A HYPOTHESIS!

Read the damn web sites you sent me to as your proof. There are a lot of big words but they’re all saying the same thing, mathematical assumptions.

Show me proof that matter can be compressed, period.

Plasma physics is showing that the electrical model is correct, and it’s doing it by observation and lab testing. That’s the way science works, and you only have assumptions.

[aqouby]

ugh...

[gaoliona]

nice

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke When did I ever say anything about a conspiracy about big brother not wanting us to know there is a GOD?

You have obviously got preconceived ideas about me that are wrong. Maybe you should reread some of our conversations before commenting back.

The only conspiracy that I can see is about money and power period, when it comes to the E M of the universe. J.P. Morgan cut Tesla’s funding when he realized that they couldn’t meter what Tesla had in mind.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke(I also read a similar book to the electric theory, which interpreted everything in the universe as Holograms, called "the holographic universe". It explained SO many strange phenomena, including all supernatural and mystical and miracle phenomena, under premises that the universe is a hologram. It was able to describe many exotic behaviors holographic systems have, that the universe and religious claims seemed to justify)

It too, is still not accepted as fact.

still a maybe

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

zero point energy, the idea that there is infinite energy everywhere in space that the Casimir effect taps into, IS STILL IN THE HYPOTHESIS PHASE.

it's not mainstream science for good reasons, stop being a conspiracy nut and saying it's because 'big brother' doesn't want you to know there's a god/designer/whatever supernatural thing you support but wont to admit to yet

are you a young earth creationist?

a deist?

a theist?

I apologize if told me already, I have several simultaneous debates atm

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

I'm 20 mins in and not learning anything new, he's covering what most ppl know about the Casimir effect, and how physics predicts infinite energy everywhere with this effect but that's not what we observe so the model is a bit wrong, etc., the usual history of zero-point energy and the Casimir effect as most people know it... (He did just say he's only covered the zero point energy basics though).

I'd like to point out he's speaking in reasonable extrapolations, not certainties!!!!

more soon-

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

I remember reading into this 'electric universe' theory when I was younger, but dropping it because it was just fringe scientists describing how so many processes can be reinterpreted in an electro-magnetic radiation sense, and never really got taken up as a serious theory by mainstream science.

This was probably due to the theories lack of predictive power, or inconsistencies that people smarter than I found.

You can relax with the faith accusations, I'm open minded, but evidence demanding.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs It's interesting that you keep trying to accuse me of having faith based beliefs in science, calling science my religion, when all I've done is be critical of things you've asserted without peer review and confident of the peer review process in sorting fact from fiction.

There's a huge difference between faith, and trust in the scientific process when applied by other people.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs trusting in the peer review process is the only argument from authority that isn't a fallacy, because it's appealing to the opinions of people who specialize in the subject more than you. It would be fallacious for me to claim that I know everything they agree with is true, but it's fine for me to believe things confirmed by peer review. It's not faith, especially since I have a pretty good understanding of the topics.

Peer review is only used to 'suppress' failing scientific models

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Well you have just proven to everyone that science is your religion.

I’ve told you that peer review is used to suppress certain information and could give you proof of it, yet you dismiss it without consideration. I’ve given you links to videos that can explain the electrical model and you dismiss those to.

Your belief in black holes is a religious belief based on faith in your peers, period.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs No I haven't been taught what to think, I have been taught how to think, which is skeptically, and I judge my acceptance of black holes to be reasonable and my rejection of things that haven't made it into main stream science to be also somewhat reasonable, because they haven't been sufficiently demonstrated to convince the bulk of people who are more experienced in the area than me.

an 'appeal to authority' can be fallacious, but the context of peer review is one of the few okay cases

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs I have not seen black holes, but you have not seen Pluto, yet belief is justified. I have a good understanding (for a layperson) on why black holes form and where we have observed things that behave like them, where we predict they would be. Having not 'seen' them is like when creationists assert we haven't seen air so we accept it on faith. There are ways it can be demonstrated without having strictly 'seen' them.

I'm not intimate enough with the electric model to comment why it's not.

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Like I said, you have not seen them. They are forming assumptions based on observations.

If you want to explain something to me then explain why you are not even taught the ideas put forth about an electrical model. It would seem to me that an idea that’s been around for 100 years would be at least mentioned if for no other reason than to show what’s wrong with the model, but they don’t, do they?

They teach you what to think and not how to think, that;s what I see.

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke What world are you living in?

The peer review process is used to suppress information they don’t want known and I can prove that statement.

Tesla talked of running our machines from the energy of space its self 100 years ago.

There are scientists from around the world researching this stuff as we speak, but you will not hear about thru normal channels.

Think for yourself.

watch?v=gPiGWIf3FjA&feature=ch­annel_video_title

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs okay, so you have claimed that what people are calling dark energy is really zero point energy, BEFORE it has been submitted to the process of peer review and evaluated and confirmed by scientists all over the world?

Then you must have full understanding of it, right?

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs would you like me to go into detail about why they form, or how and where we have seen them?

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke I’ve not claimed one thing explained by the supernatural. You’re making accusations about what the guy in this video was saying that if you watched the video you would see that you’re wrong and only making yourself look ignorant. I have claimed that what people are calling dark energy is really zero point energy. I am not claiming that that I came up with that idea or that I know the unknowable.

Prove to me that black holes exist, you can’t outside of speculation.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

@davnxs I already know the truth? your the one claiming to know the unknowable, my only truth claim is that your evidences haven't been confirmed and your belief in the supernatural is unjustified (and that you wrongly think it is justified)

[davnxs]

@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Once again, you’re twisting things around to make me sound silly. What I said was if you didn’t want to watch the whole video to skip to 58mins.

Obviously you can’t bother yourself to watch the whole video because you already know the truth.

You are as about as brain washed as they come and wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the ass.

Why don’t you try watching the whole video, he's talking about other people’s work not about his own theories.

[HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke]

so the uploader recommended me to skip to 58 minutes in, which was perfect because although he thought it was the most revealing moment.... he was right :P

he's quote mining the rejection of his theory to make it sound like his peers are silly.

it was like,

"why are you still calling it dark energy!? I told you guys what it is!"

"we'd like to keep it vague, dude..."

analogy

"why do you keep saying this corpse was eaten by an animal? I told you it was a bear!"

"that hasn't been established..."