HHO Over Unity again "analog meters" Pt 1

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See Rosemary Ainslie circuit & aaronmurkakami videos for additiona info....l There was a question raised about both analog and digital meters missing some of the harmonics of the waveform. I am sure that this is true, so that would mean that my cell meter in fact may be reading low, thus the over unity reading would be higher than I said. Now I am not claiming over unity across the cell, simply it is a series circuit with one amp meter from the P.C. supply and the other is between the mosfet and the cell in the same path, but its 12 volts dc across the whole circuit. PLEASE LOOK AT THE RESPONCE VIDEO from Germany on Pt 2..

Up Date: Reviewing my video, I notice that the cell voltage and current draw was some what low.

The problem was yes I was using the 12 volt PC power supply wires but the switch of the power supply main input voltage was set at 220v ac instead 110 v ac. I do this from time to time because its give another range of voltage for testing. So my test is still valid just readings were low. Current at resonance should have been 7 amps without cooling and 8 amps with cooling.

Check & double check


This is a re-test of the video "Over Unity or What" where I wanted to be sure I wasn't mislead by my cheap digital meters. On both tests I used three capacitors across the shunts of both types of meters.

1 10 mfd
1 .1 mfd
1 .001 mfd

This allows the meters to see only filtered DC current reguardless of the operating frequency.

There was no change in the reading. You will see that the so called over unity is the same reguardless of using analog or digital meters. It is very important that there is a sharp rise and fall to the square wave.

The next step is to switch from the lab box to my modified David Latwon circuit where I have added a level and DC bias control. I hope to see even better results than before. It that works out, then I will add two more rod circuits in hopes of more current using two more modified Lawton circuits at different resonance frequencies. Beyond that I want to look into replacing the rod and the bi-filiar coil with three "Rodin Coils" driving a copper rod.

People who run their cells at 12 to 14.25 volts have to add many bandaids and the problems are never solved.

lets look at the benefits on three volt operation.

1. Little heat crawl

2. Little amp crawl

3. No cell or electrolyte maintiance

4. Need to refill is less

5. No crud or scrum

6. No foam

7. 60 to 70% less power needed.

8. Smaller gauge wire needed.

9. Safe concentrate of electrolyte.

10. Simple cell design or multi plate dry cell design works along as there are no neutrals

11. NO PWM NEEDED

12. Peace of mind

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[Me102288]

@hhoforvolts I'm not quite fluint with electricty, but I've managed an almost 95% system through feeding the hho to a small weed eater engine, that drives a permanent magnet altenator (3 phase) into a car battery. I have no idea where I'm loosing the 5% I'm thinking I have to increase the output of the altenator. as for the 316L its the most corrosive resistant of all the types of stainless, I would guess running over a certain voltage wears them down more? heh I'm try'in for just unity first

[hhoforvolts]

@Me102288 For conversion to drive the cell, you will loose about 4 to 5 %. In this mode it is a very efficient 'Buck" converter. The overunity applies to the power developed in the rod which I hope someone will be able to extract. If you build this circuit, there is no reason not to use 304 S.S.

Richard

[Me102288]

@hhoforvolts aha, you have a charged rod?is it magnetized? if so wrap a magnet wire coil around it, should act as an induction coil shouldn't it? smaller gauge magnet wire = more amps, larger = more volts. wow if it could only be that simple :-p please say that bar has electromagnetic flux :-)

[hhoforvolts]

@Me102288 Yes the rod is magnetic but smaller gauge wire has higher resistance so it can't pass a high current. I have done this and it acts just like it should as a transformer, but no over unity. Yes the rod has magnetic flux.

Richard

[Me102288]

@hhoforvolts whoops, forgot, there's no conversion, I use only standard carbs, no elect. fuel injection crap, computers never belonged in land based vehicles.. buggers could program something to fail so you'd have to replace an $800 "control module" lol, sorry off track. with permanent magnet altenators you'll find you can accomplish 100 amps while the hho generator only takes 10 to work so I don't see where the loss is, pma's are almost frictionless, non cogging too.

[hhoforvolts]

@Me102288 I think your missing the point of the whole circuit. It doesn't matter what kind of altenator your using, if you are running a cell at 12volts drawing 15 amps, that's 180 watts, it produces no more HHO than a cell running at 2.5 volts 15 amps. 37.5 watts, plus you have a lot more problems running at 12volts.

Richard

[Me102288]

@hhoforvolts oh you've mistook what I mean by permanent magnet alternator. I'm running a tiny combustion engine on hho, the gen that feeds it pulls only 6 to 10 amps max. the pma it turns @500rpm and is rated @ 2kiliowatt... understand? if not here's a video of university students who did basically the same thing. just paste this is your youtube search bar: watch?v=cMlciNOyo_U

amazing they skipped over-unity and got free energy.lol

[hhoforvolts]

@Me102288 Yes that's what the cell is drawing........but it's a series circuit so take the voltage drop across the rod coil times the current and what do you get?...The problem is getting the over unity out. This was an early video, now the output to the cell is 21 amps. so reason for the design in the first place was to produce 3.5 volts for the cell from 12 volts with little loss, it;'s now at 96%

I have run 305 S.S. for a year with no damage at all. S.S is a must if 12 v is used, but why?

[Me102288]

over unity? get an ampmeter on the exit side at the same voltage, 3.3v at 6 amps is 19.8 watts, your taking 72 watts at 12v following the age old

Voltage x Amperage = watts

P.s. ignore the guy that said stop using Stainless Steel, Grade 316L SS is the only thing that wont corrode in electrolosis.HHO2U.com shows the test 304 ss is almost entirely corroded off while 316L was cleanable.

[Me102288]

over unity? get an ampmeter on the exit side at the same voltage, 3.3v at 6 amps is 19.8 watts, your taking 72 watts at 12v following the age old

Voltage x Amperage = watts