A couple more of Fiore del Liberi's Dagger Plays

A couple more of Fiore del Liberi's Dagger Plays with a short grappling application bonus, by mathieu Ravignat and Nick Conway, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Sports

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• Fiore;del;Liberi
• ;Dagger
• ;Ravignat
• ;Conway

[0000030z]

There are a lot of similarities with many of the Filipino styles, concepts, movement and executions. I find the differences become more apparent when you start playing in the armor. Add 80 lbs of steel and leather and it's an entirely different game.

[snowcelt]

Nice stuff! Fluid and relaxed. How about doing an extra passo after the first accressere when doing the third master remedy (e.g. at 00:20? Also when you do the throw, if you take a passo step (with posta longa) to behind his lead leg, he cannot step back to save himself from falling (1:21).

[0000030z]

Thanks for your comments. That extra pass is the final part of the takedown.I do teach it that way, but I dont put my partner down in casual play. As for the the second, the way I use that play is more ballistic than a simple takedown. By continuing my movement directly behind my opponent and "violently" transfering from a basic frontale position into a basic iron gate position I can fling him to the ground, causing his head to impact the floor forcefully.

[erinpwnerer]

Yeah, it's all about interpretation of the texts and martial intent. I gotta say i like the fling better.

[0000030z]

my interpretations tend to be more martially inclined. For fighting the way I believe it was intended. Life n death, in the lists, on the battlefield or in a bar. I've seen some of Fiore's stuff done in a more artful or sporting manner.....nothing wrong with it, some plays even look like fun. it's just not my thing.

[erinpwnerer]

Yeah, i definitely agree with you there. This style was designed to kill people as quickly and efficiently as possible, and we should safely reflect that.

[0000030z]

It's that "safely" part that causes so much trouble....oh well.....practice practice practice right?

[robasci00]

i see many corrispondences among italian martial arts techinques like this and some knife/dagger applications of kali filipino

[erinpwnerer]

yeah

[luxaeternus]

A lot of this stuff I can see myself using. The first move looks a lot like a Pradal Serey move I learned this week.