john snow

again a lovely smooth, accelerating run-up and genuinely fast action.englands best.

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[Blackhoundrise]

ooh...

[maxlogica]

@Imrankniazi A simple contest between bat and ball...ahhh...if only my son...if only.

[Imrankniazi]

@Biggus63 You've met a lot of cricketers. Are you from Perth? Did you ever play for Western Australia yourself?

I had the good fortune of attending D K Lillee's pace academy in Chennai for one season. Got to see the man just once, but his 10-minute talk was really something special.

[Imrankniazi]

@maxlogica It's a simple contest between bat and ball. Most fast bowlers have this ultra-aggressive streak as Biggus correctly points out. You are trying to create an issue where there is none.

Snow assisted Sandeep Patil and helped him groom into a Test-class batsman. By his own admission, Patil became much better at playing the moving ball after Snowy's support. Why would he do that if he hated Indians, as you claim?

[Biggus63]

@Imrankniazi -I remember Viswanath well. I ran into him at a bookstore in Perth in 1977/78. There I was checking out the books in the cricket section and I sensed someone beside me-the man himself. I was surprised at his diminutive stature but entranced with his elegant play. A delight to watch!

[Biggus63]

@maxlogica -Snowy didn't just hate Indians and West Indians, he hated Aussies and some of his team as well. He really just hated anyone with a bat in their hand, just like Lillee and Curtly Ambrose did too. Common fast bowlers 'White line fever', that's all. Your thinking is intellectually lazy.

[maxlogica]

@Imrankniazi Cricket has been riddled with racial connotations from its beginnings by the nature of it being born by the british empire and spread to its colonies around the world....the 70's was littered with such incidents e.g snow barging into gavaskar , holding destroying tony grieg and england at the oval 1976

[Imrankniazi]

@Biggus63 Good for you, sir.

I'm much younger than you and it's mostly through reading that I know these players. Roberts was a feared figure in India as well and my father watched his 12-wicket haul in Chennai, 1974. That was quite some Test (famous for the Vishwanath vs. Roberts duel) and many believe that it was one of the quickest efforts of bowling ever witnessed in our nation.

Marshall in Kanpur, 1984 must have come pretty close though :-) Pity that DKL never bowled here!

[Biggus63]

@Imrankniazi - Both Roberts and Snow had the special ability to make the ball do nasty things on flat wickets. Although I'm an Aussie, Roberts was a bit of a hero for me in my youth.

[Imrankniazi]

@maxlogica Dude why do you make this a racist/political issue? Snow was temperamental and so was Gavaskar (on other occasions). The fact that one man was white-skinned while the other was brown-skinned is a non-issue here.

Snow was even penalised for that incident and even he would agree that he deserved that. It was just a misdemenour on the field. Leave it at that!

Everybody has some racist/political opinions (including myself), but leave sports out of the realm.