Clip 1: Are evolutionary psychologists confused about sexual selection? (Templeton Foundation)

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"Evolving explanations for human nature" with Robert Wright and Joan Roughgarden, a Bloggingheads.tv "diavlog" supported by the Templeton Foundation. For the full video, go to http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/19126

For a series of Big Questions essays on this theme, with contributions by Wright, Roughgarden, Frans de Waal, Simon Conway Morris, Francis Collins, Lynn Margulis, Martin Nowak, and others, visit http://www.templeton.org/evolution

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  • @guest7952 I'd agree with that, I suppose what I'm really wondering is how much of our sexual selection is conscious vs. how much is unconscious (like the WHR and pheramones you mentioned). This is why biology rocks my socks.

  • @Bardlettt In general, across cultures males prefer women with a .07 Waist Hip ratio. Although some males mate with females of a higher WHR, it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't find women with a .07 WHR more attractive. You also have to take into account different alleles which could play a role in scent, leading the male to find the heavier female more attractive because of gene variance. Although this ratio fluctuates within some small cultures it is seen as universal across the world.

  • Do we not function by dual sexual selection? While we might select for "robustness" since our species is unique in intelligence and conscious personality, the question of "what is robust?" is different to each person. Some males prefer fat females, some thin. Some females prefer the alpha male, some prefer those with more feminine or empathetic qualities. It's not something to be analyzed on the micro, but the macroscopic level.

  • Females are under pressure to reproduce whether a male they "want" to select for is available or not.

  • So one might not understand, deliberately or not, the full details of sexual selection. That's ok, just don't go and start a big foundation that tries to poison scientific research by injecting christian bias into the.. oh.. too late huh?

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