The (Expanded) Philosophy of Liberty

Ken Schoolland's prologue from the Adventures of Jonathan Gullible.
http://www.isil.org/resources/philosophy-of-liberty-index.html

The flash animation is from their site (ripped from their divx version for quality).

The text of the narration can be found on http://revolutioni.st - on the Liberty page (link in the right column)

For more information on the Civil Flag, see;
http://www.barefootsworld.net/uscivilflag.html

For more information on the laws cited from the U.S. code,
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_13.html

For more information about the drug laws/vices not being crimes, see
http://lysanderspooner.org - click on Works, then "Vices Are Not Crimes"

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[OuTofJoY]

"SELF-OWNERSHIP" is an IDIOTIC definition of liberty.

You don't "own" yourself - you ARE yourself. Geez.

This is just weasel nonsense, to confuse discussions of a SOCIAL character (acquisition and maintenance of property) with the entirely private (liberty, personal sovereignty.)

Nice try pseudo "anarchist" capitalists and right-wing "libertarians" - but the color of liberty has always been RED.

[Kallepash]

Better this definition than none. What do you offer instead? It's not a perfect definition, but you have to admit it makes for a decent analogy. Sure; you ARE yourself, an entity with rights to acquire and maintain property. You also have rights to liberty and personal sovereignty. How does the definition not work here? You own a pet - you are responsible for its actions. You own yourself - you are responsible for your own actions. The analogy works for me.

Do you have something better?

[sws1253]

I agree with everything except the comment about President Bush. This comment should have been a generic comment about the 'President' instead of pointed at an individual. Would the creator of this video say the same thing about our current president? Would the creator of this video say the same thing about any other president?

[Kallepash]

@sws1253 Our current one? Absolutely.

He's shredding the constitution he swore to protect in order to try and take care of people by robbing everyone, and further decreasing personal responsibility...thus reducing further personal rights.

As far as personal liberties go, he's at least as bad as Bush, and maybe worse.

I'd need to do more research before speaking of past presidents, but it's been a long decline that continues to get worse.

[esca8652]

@Riellysdad Nature is a dictatorship *if we want to prosper as a species. For instance, we are using our oil up at a rate of roughly 1 million times its regrowth rate. And at this rate, we will run out of oil by the year 2050, *forcing us to look elsewhere for energy solutions. There's many other examples I could give but that should give you the insight necessary to go further.

[Riellysdad]

@esca8652 ..nature just "is"...existence exists..A is A. Don't likr that...? then die..that's the only out.

[esca8652]

@Kallepash Nature is a dictatorship as well. That's one of the things overlooked in Libertarian philosophy that really needs to be revised.

[esca8652]

@Kallepash 100 years from now, there will be no property rights. People forget that it is the *access to that they desire *not the ownership. *Owning property is a very unsustainable right. Our population is set to be 9 billion by the year 2050, and who knows what it will be 100 years from now, but I can tell you, that if humans are still inhabiting this planet, the epiphany will dawn on them that we will have to share land resources to remain a practical society.

[breezio01]

I do like this explaination of liberty. I don't use alcohol or what are now listed as illegal drugs nor do I advocate anyone use them. But! I think we would be better off if the illegal drugs were legalized as alcohol is and we held people accountable for their actions when the drugs are abused. Compare the current drug wars to the gang wars in the U.S. during prohibition.

[dunodug]

@OuTofJoY Go soak your head.

[MultiTroll99]

pacifist crap 

[Hawkswish]

@LouieArrighi Not an attack...just a clarification of "person"

Source,

UNITED STATES CODE:

TITLE 26 > Subtitle F > CHAPTER 75 > Subchapter D > § 7343

§ 7343. Definition of term “person”

The term “person” as used in this chapter includes an officer or employee of a corporation, or a member or employee of a partnership, who as such officer, employee, or member is under a duty to perform the act in respect of which the violation occurs.

[wippster99]

This is Why I'm a Independent, not a Dem or a Rep. Watch all the way through and find Freedom and Liberty for yourself. Truth is Bush and Obama are incorrect in their ideas of freedom. Christian, Islam and all American society can be Free to live happy and profit from these simply yet intelligent beliefs. We the people, not the government. Free your Mind and the Rest will follow.........

[BirgirZ]

@OuTofJoY If you own yourself, you controll your life, are you saying other people should be allowed to controll your life?