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[Thunderwavia]

Mark Steyn is a HERO

[skye820]

I agree.

[chris3443]

Mark Steyn for PM!

[romgtr]

Galileo was wrong! He recanted his position and admitted the church was right a yr before he died. Most people don't know that. Chk out Robert Sungenis' book Galileo Was Wrong the Church Was Right.

[Jaycephus01]

Stupid YouTube commenting: The previous post was meant as a reply to 'Jack'. To continue:

Much of what people have against Christianity historically is more properly laid at the feet of 'Catholicism'. Much of the development of modern Western Civilization occurred in conjunction with the rise of Protestantism, which I hold much more representative of True Christianity than is Catholicism. I believe this is akhille's point as well.

[Jaycephus01]

Galileo was suppressed because Galileo's scientist-enemies, of which he had made many due to his own ego, used the Catholic church against him.

I don't exactly understand how in the case of Rome's Fall, it was 'Christian Pacifism' at fault, but in every other time, from the Crusades, Christian's were and still are too 'war-like'.

Also, back to the point above, it is impossible to say "Christianity", as if that encompasses Catholics, pre-catholics, Protestants, etc.

[JackadullBoy]

I'll take the (implied)question-- and question mark-- at face value. See Gibbon and A.H.M. Jones. Constantine's choice of a state religion drained the fisc to pay for millions of useless clerics and build churches, while the allegedly pacifist Christian doctrine (despite e.g. Luke 19-27) weakened Rome's tradition of civic militarism. If the Church wants to share in the credit for modern science, it also must account for the suppression of Lucretius, Epictetus, Gallileo, Darwin, etc.

[Jaycephus01]

? Yes all those 'Christian' barbarians sacked Rome, destroyed churches, libraries, and any civilization they could find, and caused the Dark Ages. But then it was Christians who copied down all the Greek and Roman texts we have today, and saved them from destruction. It's so wierd how so many Christian scientists built all the foundations modern scientists stand on today. As said above, you truly are moronic.

[JackadullBoy]

You raise an excellent point. How has the west survived the fall of Rome and dark ages that Christianity brought about? Why do we, despite the church's best efforts, continue to value independent thought, science, innovation, transparency, accountability, democracy, etc.? We have to credit the strength of the ideas to begin with. While admitting that some remain in the dark ages.

[akhille]

Ah - well there is quite a wide swath of time between Rome, last emperor deposed in 476 AD, and, say, the American War of Independence in 1776ish. What do you think was the primary culture, in which western liberal democracy "developed," during the intervening 1300 years, you fucking moron?