Which Israel Is Israel? - #1/8 - The True Jew - offline111

The Apostle Paul identifies the true Israel of God in his epistles to the Romans, and Galatians. All through the New Testament the clear line is drawn by the Holy Spirit, separating the true Israel from the false. Only God has the right to draw that line and He assigned the task to the Apostle that called himself "a Hebrew of Hebrews." If this is anti-Semitic, and some may falsely claim it so, then God Himself is guilty of the same injustice the Apostle Paul has committed. Does God sin? Impossible. All Christians need to be established in the orientation God has clearly delivered on the matter of "IDENTIFYING THE ISRAEL OF GOD." May He guide and establish in all truth. Amen.

Due to the heretical group that is now claiming that the Original Hebrew People were not Semetic, but Negro, I have put some articles on our web site that deal with this racist heresy. Please stop by and read this material. I should prove to be helpful in many ways. The Truth Of God is like that. Amen. http://www.theonemediator.com/the_origin_of_the_hebrew_people.htm

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[Bonnofowler]

@offline111 At one time all people were colored. Yahshua had hair like wool, Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian (Mizraim), all the prophecies pertain to those who were taken captive and shipped to the land you stole. You are the oppressor, Gentile, Edom. Read Deut. 28.

[offline111]

@Bonnofowler - And you don't see racism in your belief system? I think almost everyone else can see it clearly. Why do you not have eyes to see? If Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were Negros, then Yeshua was a Negro too, King David, Solomon, all the kings of Israel. Babylon would have taken them in bondage for 600 years. (No record.) Yet you cannot see how ludicrus this is. Even when Rome ruled over the region of Judea the Jews would have been Negros.(Still no record!) It was clearly not the case.

[offline111]

(continued) If you have any sense left at all think on this. You say I am an Edomite. The Bible says that "Esau is Edom." Esau and Jacob were in the same womb at the same time and were born "fraternal twins", brothers of the same mother and father. If Jacob was a Negro as you claim, how is Esau/Edom white? Wow, I must be a Negro and haven't noticed. You blame all Whites for the slaughter of the indigenous people of this country over a century ago, and you don't see your racist doctrine?

[offline111]

(cont.) Moses was raised up in Egypt and was taught all their culture, religion, as the son of the daughter of Pharaoh. He was from Shem. Mizraim is not as dark skinned as Cush (the Ethiopians), for instance. There are problems with Ham (Phut/Persia, Mizraim/Egypt, Canaan/Amonites/Philitines/etc­., Cush/Ethiopia), and Japeth (Ashur/Assyria/etc.), Ishmael and Esau. They claim the promises given only to Shem (Abraham/Isaac/Jacob/Yeshua),a­nd are nations/peoples who are enemies of Yah/Yehovah/Yeshua.

[Bonnofowler]

How is it racist to say that the descendants of israel are modern day "negros"? Admit whats right before your eyes

[offline111]

@Bonnofowler - What happens to be right before my eyes is that the Hebrew word in the Old Testament text which is consistently rendered ETHIOPIA / ETHIOPIAN is Cush (Kuwsh, or Cush, a son of Ham.) The land of Ethiopia/Cush is populated by Negro people. Who in their right mind could possibly deny this? The Hebrew people come through the line of SHEM, not JAPHETH, not HAM (all three are the sons of Noah.) Jer 13:23 "....can an Ethiopian change His skin, a leapard his spots..." ( the ANCIENT text.)

[sweetjamee]

Denial is the first step to acceptance. God's word is true and men are liars. It's a shock to us all. WILL THE TRUE BLACK ISRAELITES STAND!!

[offline111]

@Ob7n - I checked out your youtube channel and you are another black goat of the "Black Hebrew Movement". (For those who know their Bibles, it is the goats that go into perdition, not the sheep.) Thanks for cursing me. When the devil curses me I know it is because I serve the Truth and he hates it. God bless you.

[offline111]

(cont.) The spiritual circumcision of Christ(Colossians 2:11;"the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit", Titus 3:5)also follows "the hearing of the Word" and "receiving a love of the Truth."(Romans 10:17, John 1:12, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.) The Baptism of Christ is spiritual as well, not by water, and follows faith (John 3; "repentance unto life", Acts 11:18 ...which "needeth not to be repented of" 2 Corinthians 7:10.) Those of such things are no longer "Gentiles", as Abraham.

[offline111]

@MsCread - Abraham's faith preceded the imputation of righteousness from Yah (God.) Because Abraham was "fully persuaded" that Yah (God) was able to, and would, keep His promises/Word to him, his faith brought forth faithful obedience. Faith separated from such faithful obedience is in vain. Such faith "fails of the grace of Yah(God), Hebrews 12:15. Such faith is "believing in vain" (1 Corinthians 15:1-2, Hebrews 11:8-10, Romans 4, Genesis 26:24, John 8, Galatians 3, James 1-2, Luke 6:47-49.)

[MsCread]

Abraham was found righteous before circumcision

[offline111]

@fivemillion2one - Thanks. I look forward to His Day with great hope and fear, but not that He will cast me away for telling the truth. God does not sin and every promise will be kept. Those who do His will have nothing to fear from Him, He is able to keep us from falling. Those who hate His Word are the goats that will be gathered on His left hand, not His right. It is pretty easy to tell a goat from a sheep and Yaweh has no cofusion in His mind, He knows them that are His. See Ya!! :)

[fivemillion2one]

@offline111 I thought you were a man of truth but now that you have shown your true self you are just someone rambling on with no truth in him. you only seek to deceive people. Too late. The gig is up. Your lies have been defeated. Many of my people are destroyed by lack of knowledge just not me. When the true messiah returns I hope you are alive to meet him and I am there to see the look on your face when he casts you away.

[offline111]

@fivemillion2one - Oh, I get it. Thanks for clearing that up. Ham is the "father of the dark races" (in your Bible dictionary)....but the Negros are not dark skinned people (obviously) so that does not include them. Very clear now. Thanks so much!!! Obviously, I didn't do enough research on that doctrine. Shame on me.

[fivemillion2one]

Sorry offline but hammites are not negroes. At one time all the sons of Noah were black. Research more history and you can see paintings of me non grandson of javen. He was japheth. Seems like you don't do enough research. The word Jew itself came after the true people were removed. By the way I have the same bible dictionary you have. Ham it says is father of the dark races but not the negroes.

[gearboy12550]

@truehebrew100 Hey "black jew," got a question for you. If you blacks are the real Hebrews of the Scriptures, why is it that all these churches on TV, most of them White, are always asking for $ so that they can do mission trips to Africa to feed the hungry & spread the good news of the Gospel? What happened? Did you "black jews" all migrate out of the holy land & forget who you were for a few thousand years until some White man came to tell them about Jesus?

[offline111]

@truehebrew100 - The whole world!! That is to who!! John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (Which includes the Jews as well as the Gentiles...God is merciful...Amen.)

[truehebrew100]

@offline111 Act 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

Act 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Act 13:24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

A SAVIOR UNTO WHO !!!!!!

[offline111]

@truehebrew100 - The promise of the Seed was to come through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (including his 12 sons.) All of the 12 tribes were God's covenant people and the Israel of the Old Testament Bible. Dan went after idols and was cut off, Manasseh took his place. God replaces the unfaithful. The bottom line is being circumcised OF HEART. King Saul went to hell, though he was circumcised. King Ahab too. King Rehoboam, even King Solomon fell to idolatry. It is the heart that must be circumcised.

[offline111]

@truehebrew100 - Rev 12 deals with the last half of the tribulation period, the 7 years concluding this present age. Any student of prophecy will know this. Satan and his angels are cast down to the earth only in that time frame. It has not happened yet. So, trying to use it as a proof text for the unfounded theory that all "white guys" are blind to the reality of "black israel" is due to Satan being cast down to the earth to blind the "white devils" just doesn't work. Back to the drawing board!

[truehebrew100]

@offline111 ASHKENAZI MEANS GERMAN IN THE HEBREW LANGUAGE. THE SO CALLED JEWS OF TODAY ARE NOT FROM SHEM. THEY ARE FROM JAPETH GRANDSON ASHKENAZ. TABLE OF NATIONS GENESIS 10TH CHAPTER. YOUR TEACHINGS ARE INCORRECT YOU ALL ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE ALL 12 TRIBES JEWS WHEN ONLY THE SOUTHERN KINGDOM WERE JEWS. THE NEW COVENANT WAS MADE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH. THE NORTHERN KINGDOM AND THE SOUTHERN KINGDOM. THE CIRCUMCISED AND THE UNCIRCUMCISED !!!

[truehebrew100]

@offline111 REVELATION 12:9 King James Bible

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. THIS IS HOW THE WHOLE WORLD MISSED IT. THE HEBREW PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BLACK!!!!

[offline111]

@lilhardy9 - I dealt with this "all the Jews throughout time have been Negros" thing of yours in comments already made. It is ludicrus, totally weird, and completely unknown amongst the true Jews and all Christians for 2000 years. Did everyone simply forget? Are you kidding me? Did all the books in the world just happen to miss it somehow? Somebody would really have to want to believe such a huge lie. It is spiritual suicide to love a lie, by the way. You can block these comments anytime.

[offline111]

(correction)....you are NOT in agreement...because you stated that Zondervan claimed that Jesus was white/Caucasian....sorry...my mistake. You are both "flat wrong" though...and that part hasn't changed. Negros are Hamites....there is no getting around that. Caucasians are from Japheth. Jews are from Shem. You can try to deny this all you like. It isn't going to change.

[offline111]

@lilhardy9 - When you quote/cite from a source.....it is assumed that you are in agreement with what they state....unless you say otherwise. I think it is clear you are in agreement....and they are flat wrong. They are also closely linked with Rome and their religion of apostasy, speaking of Zondervan (publishers of apostate "Bibles" that have changed God's Word in thousands of places.) An interesting source to use in seeking to justify your nonsense. God will hold us all accountable personally.

[offline111]

(cont.) Even IF you want to say in John 3:1-12 that both Jesus/Yeshua and Nicodemus were both BLACK as midnight in appearance.....the Word deals only with the spirit and soul of man. The flesh is not even mentioned in this context. It is NOT the focus of Christ and the gospel, but the OPPOSITE of that focus. You need to ask yourself WHY your teachers are backward in their focus and manner of teaching. They are ANTICHRIST, and focus on the flesh, not the Spirit. They are not the Lord's servants.

[offline111]

(cont.) Christ tells us that it is NOT about the flesh (the genetics, the body)....it is about the Spirit. Salvation, and the kingdom of God, are about the Spirit and regeneration of the true Jesus Christ. Even IF Jesus was a "black man".....and He was certainly NOT, but "even IF He was"......it would mean NOTHING. Having His physical characteristics (His genes), HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS KINGDOM AND SALVATION. It is the SOUL that must be saved, and the SPIRIT that must be regenerated. John 3