Grace & Works - The Bicycle Parable

Explaining how "Grace and Works" work together.

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[pooptypeuptypants55c]

if a man is on his death bed and he recieves God into his heart, will he go to hell because he did no christian works, such asbeing baptized, prior to this, will he go to hell? i believe that God tells us to do theese works but they are not required to go to heaven for his death apon the cross and our acceptance is enough. because he is the ONLY way to go to heaven.

[MrNirom]

How is a man to show his faith without works? It is by your works.. whether they be evil or good that you will be judged. How does one on his death bed.. now afraid of dying decide to accept God? The Lord has stated many times... "Do not procrastinate the day of your repentance." This is the type of doctrine that will damn a person. There is no such thing as "death bed repentance" and to teach that will surely not benefit any person. Today is the day!

[eternalwolf777]

Now...I'm not a Mormon but I have to say that this is one of the best illustrations of God's grace and his expectations of us that I've seen. Nicely done.

[MrNirom]

The Kingdom which God resides in is the highest of all three kingdoms.. known as the celestial kingdom which is likened unto the sun in glory.. compared to the moon or the stars. A person who would receive a body celestial after judgment day.. would enter the celestial kingdom.. one who would receive a body terrestrial.. would enter the terrestrial kingdom.. and so forth. Because there are many stars and the glory of each star is different.. those that receive that kingdom also vary in glory.

[MrNirom]

As Jesus Christ himself said: "In my father's house there are many mansions... If it were not so.. I would have told you." John 14:2 So the idea of one heaven and one hell is not supported Biblically. What we have learned and as the Apostle Paul taught.. there are 3 levels to heaven. 1 Cor. 15: 40 What we know is that all can be saved except those that have denied the Holy Ghost. To be saved means not cast out. But there is a difference between being saved.. and being exalted.

[MrNirom]

There are too many IF's here to content with. If a man does this.. or if a man does that.

You definition of being saved is going to heaven... or else if you are not.. you go to hell.

I do not believe in that definition.

[MrNirom]

I do believe in many scriptures.. for it takes many to know what the meaning is. Believing in him is just the first step... it is not the end step. If you believe in him.. then you know why you must follow him. For without him.. there would be no salvation or eternal life. So faith in Christ is the just the 1st principle of his Gospel. For without faith in Christ.. one has no need for repentance.. one has no need to be baptized.. nor the laying on of hands for the Gift of the Holy Ghost.

[MrNirom]

Please show me in the Bible.. where paradise is considered heaven. The word paradise is use 3 times in the Bible. Just in Daniel the word heaven is use 16 times. Not once is paradise and heaven used in the same sentence. For if Christ ascended to heaven with the thief... why did he not call it heaven? Why would he call heaven paradise? Because... Heaven is not paradise! Please show me that heaven and paradise are used interchangeably in the Bible. You can't because they are not.

[MrNirom]

First of all if you read the scripture.. Christ told him he would be in paradise with him... not heaven. Paradise is the place most spirits go until the judgment. So he was not "saved" as you believe he was. And that is what is sad that your whole belief is based on that one scripture.

[godstruthislove]

We " Don't save ourselves"

God does threw Grace ONLY!!, and proof of that is the Thief on the Cross!

Where was his works?