Making Of "Death in Venice"
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It's not a homosexual fantasy you stupid uneducated boy. Tadzio is a symbol of perfect beauty that is unachievable for artist.
3 years ago 22
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But this is
Mahler's 9h there , whereas in his film , Visconti did use 3rd , 5fh and 7th .
Mann thought about Mahler ; but Aschenbach is quite different . Mahler was a fighter and disliked rich society . He was always in thought about music and philosophy . Aschenbach seems to be inhibited , or idle .
Moreover , Mahler did mix burlesque and sublime ; he loved to introduce real world into art as Aschenbach can't stand vulgarity and cannot reach the beauty .
Of course , this a masterwork
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Merci pour ce documentaire vraiment très intéressant .
De plus les commentaires ici sont aussi enrichissants .
C'est vrai que souvent , il est question d'homosexualité à propos de ce chef d'oeuvre qui du coup a un aspect dérangeant car comment se situer en tant que spectateur ?
Le choix de la musique de Mahler est un élément important du film car elle ne cesse de confronter le grotesque au sublime , et le réel à l"art . comme Aschenbach est pris entre le vulgaire et le beau .
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What a great documentary! "Death in Venice" is one of my favorite movies ever, I actually love every film directed by the one & only, the incomparable, the unique and the best ever Italian director - Mr. Luchino Visconti! Dirk Bogarde at his best here! It's so much about deep emotions, intellect, culture and things of this nature and NOT a hidden gay side of a person - for all those who do not possess enough acquirement and make stupid inferences! Thanks to the poster.
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Personally i enjoyed the end of the film ... but .. above all the feelings i had ... But ... i think the film goes too slow ...
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@xoxxo16 there is a documentary about björn? i can not find it!
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@rukawa9289 i wonder
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Despite the homoerotic elements of Mann's novella and especially Visconti's film, the story is much more than that. Mann wrote on many levels simultaneously. Some higher levels are particularly sophisticated and require a broad education and specific knowledge of his times and language (more recent translations are better than the old.) Mann's actual experience in Venice: "Tadzio" was Wladyslaw Moes, and the friend was Janek Fudakowska. Wladzio read the book in 1923 and recognized himself.
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@LSD9000 Yes, that is exactly it! That was Thomas Man's point. Tadzio is the beauty we all yearn for...
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@transfoby That was not my first impression... but I need to read the novel again so I can judge. He is an Angel of death, that is for certain.
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@eva11fe what happened to Bjorn Andersen?
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I don't feel like deleting comments but I'd be forced to it if people insist on writing homophobic harsh remarks... So don't tell you haven't been warned!
europecinema 3 years ago 9
Its so interesting.. but i dont know if you know the history of Björn Andresen (TADZIO) luchino visconti lies to him.. in the premiere in Cannes Luchino take Björn Andresen to a gay bar.. and Björn only have 15 years old.. it´s no ok.. if you have time investigate about the history of Björn Andresen i fine but its in spanish.. Bye
eva11fe 4 years ago 5
Gracias por tu comentario. La verdad es que no conocía esta anécdota y si además está español, pues mucho mejor! Te agradecería muchísimo si pudieras decirme dónde lo has leído... Saludos!
europecinema 4 years ago
It's so nice to see this. Thanks. I'm so delighted to hear Dirk's voice especially. It would be so nice to see more interviews of this such a talented and intellectual actor! I especially long for the interview he did with Rusell Harty before he died. Hope to see it one day on youtube!
Pacabelle 4 years ago 3
Thank you for your interesting comment. I have been looking for this interview but no luck... A pity!
europecinema 4 years ago