(SHORT) 'Climategate' debate: Scientists clash LIVE on RT

A respected British scientist has admitted that emails taken from his inbox, calling into question many of the accepted truths of global warming, were genuine. The documents appear to show scientists are holding back, or ignoring, evidence. One even suggested using a "trick" to hide a trend of falling temperatures.

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• Climategate
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• leaked emails

[divinacomedias]

"Climate change"? Why not discuss the overall problem of pollution instead? Maybe because there is no political interest for corporate funded plutocratic kleptocracies to actually tackle any problem in a way that would prevent profit maximisation by the sectors in question.

[honestann]

Exactly - "who pays you"? Every single one of these criminals needs to identify how they gain from any conclusion.

The claims of human-caused global warming of large scale is a total FRAUD. How do we know? Because the same kind of warming and cooling has happened many times over thousands of years at least. Also, when the earth warms and polar caps shrink... so do polar caps on Mars. Global warming is largely caused by solar activity, not human carbon-dioxide. Stop pollution, not CO2.

[treon123456]

 hahahaha!!! ' VVHO PAYS YOU! ' youtube...' congress laughs at obama on climate change '

[SFCJHadley]

It's the AGW Alarmist way of covering all bases. This way when it rains, it's Global Warming.

When it's a drought, it's Global Warming.

When it snows, it's Global Warming.

When it doesn't snow, it's Global Warming.

When there is a Hurricane, it's Global Warming.

When there is a lack of Hurricanes, it's Global Warming.

When Haiti has an Earthquake, it's Global Warming.

When Chili has an Earthquake, it's Global Warming.

See how easy it is?

Now pay me 1 Billion dollars. :)

[gerjanp]

that Russian meteoroligst is telling porkies

remove the spaces for the word on this from WHO

ww w. euro. who. int /malaria /ctryinfo /affected /20020722_14

[marktimmer2212]

IPCC and Monsanto are currently the biggest terroristic organisation on the face of this planet

both owned by the worldbank btw

[honestann]

Yes, thanks much for that reference.

I thought the delay between temperature rise and CO2 rise was "only" about 200 years on average, but perhaps I remember wrong. The point is, this one discovery alone is sufficient to totally destroy the CO2-alarmist arguments and plans. Thanks again.

[FreeAgain2]

and here is just ONE of the scientific papers -

Indermühle et al (GRL vol 27, p735, 2000) find CO2 lags temperature by 1000 years, using Antarctic cores.

[honestann]

banben72: afterthought

Oh, I forgot to mention some of the other very important considerations, which the CO2-alarmists have also admitted privately, but try to ignore or deflect in public.

One of the most interesting, and one they got caught at several years ago, is that increases in temperature happen before increases in CO2. Therefore, the causal relationship is - rising temperature tends to cause (directly or indirectly) rising CO2, not the other way around.

Enough evidence?

[honestann]

banben72: postscript

Finally, consider who funds these CO2-alarmists. The ones in question work for the UN, which is (by definition) a "globalist institution" that favors global solutions and global governments. You only need read their reports over the decades to be informed of that.  This is blatant conflict of interest.

You find similar situations almost everywhere: governments fund advocates of "government solutions/power", always at the expense of honesty, liberty and individualism.

[honestann]

banben72: #6 of 6

This may not be an example of the "scientific method", but I shall include the following nonetheless. When you look at the methods, omissions and conclusions of the CO2-alarmists, we note the "amazing coincidence" that every single error, every single omission, every single fudge, every single fraud --- always and invariably promotes CO2-alarmism, and none of them support the opposite. And every bit of inconvenient evidence others raise is rejected out of hand. Suspicious?

[honestann]

banben72: #5 of ???

To conclude my MWP comments, if earth was much warmer a few thousand years ago, when humans most certainly were not causing substantial CO2 emissions, how can we claim CO2 is the main driver of global warming? Obviously, we cannot. And again, note that the CO2-alarmists know about the MWP, and their emails discuss hiding this annoying fact.

Also, their models are bogus (like assume reduced heat emission at higher temperatures while physics demans just the opposite).