John Piper - Prayer Changes Things - Sermon Jam

Preacher: John Piper, Teaching Pastor at Bethlehem Baptist Church

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[999Thip]

outstanding...........

[makinmoves2010]

Acknowledge GOD in all things!

[08codys90]

@auntymabele what exactly is an answered prayer? Your team winning the game? You studying really hard and aceing that math test? Starving children going hungry despite their prayers for food?

[AuntyMabele]

Also, hate it when anti-religious people claim that people who pray also don't work to solve problems. The two aren't mutually exclusive you know.

[AuntyMabele]

@08codys90So you presuppose prayer doesn't work even though you don't pray and ignore the fact that it works for millions of people across the world, including myself. Prayer is not always about miracle claims, it's about seeking guidance and wisdom from the Lord in your every day life. Trying to explain these sort of things to someone who doesn't know God is like trying to describe colors to a blind man. With your attitude towards God and prayer you will never find the evidence you're seeking.

[08codys90]

@auntymabele what is needed for evidence would vary depending on the miracle claim. A better question is how can you tell when its a "miracle" and not just a slim chance? I know prayer doesn't work because I'm not a child. Asking my invisible friend to fix my problems won't make the problems go away. Instead, I work to fix those problems myself and try to talk some sense into those who don't.

[AuntyMabele]

@08codys90 So what exactly would count as "evidence" to you? It doesn't matter what I say you won't believe me anyway. I have all the evidence I need that God is real and that prayer is a powerful tool to one with faith. Does that help you though? No. And again, how do you know prayer does nothing if you don't pray?

[08codys90]

@auntymabele how can you expect me to believe anything you say without the evidence I asked for 3 times now? How do I know your "answered prayers" were not coincidence? Or, something ridiculous that would have happened anyway. "God, I know you are angry and made the sun go away but please, bring it back in the morning. Amen." I don't pray because I don't believe, and I ask you again, please provide evidence prayer has ever done anything.

[AuntyMabele]

@08codys90 How would you know prayer does no good if you A) Don't believe in God, B) Don't pray? That makes no sense. I've had countless prayers answered in my life.

[08codys90]

@mrhankie2025 worship of logic? No, I just see the world for what it is. Big claims require big evidence, and I have seen none for your so called god. You shouldn't expect me to believe any god exists, let alone yours, any more than you should believe I own an invisible, intangible pink unicorn without evidence. I'm not arguing consistency between your god and prayer, I'm stating prayer does absolutely no good. And when I ask you to prove otherwise instead of doing so you get defensive.