The road from Rogoźnica to KL Groß Rosen

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Rogoźnica (German: Groß Rosen) is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Strzegom, within Świdnica County, Lower Silesian Voivodeship, in south-western Poland.[1] Prior to 1945 it was part of Poland, Bohemia, Austria, Prussia and Germany.. During World War II it was the site of the Nazi German Gross-Rosen concentration camp.

Rogoźnica lies approximately 7 kilometres (4 mi) north-west of Strzegom, 21 kilometres (13 mi) north-west of Świdnica, and 54 kilometres (34 mi) west of the regional capital Wrocław. The village has a population of 856.

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There are a number of films here on the packaging industry. This is because I am the publisher of Central and Eastern European Packaging -- http://www.ceepackaging.com - the international platform for the packaging industry in this region focusing on the latest innovations, trends, design, branding, legislation and environmental issues with in-depth profiles of major industry achievers.

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Central and Eastern European Packaging examines the packaging industry throughout this region, but in particular in the largest regional economies which are Russia, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine and Austria. That is not to say that the other countries are forgotten, they are not, but obviously there is less going on. However the fact that there are so many travel related films here is not from holidays but from business trips attending trade fairs around the region. Every packaging trade fair is a new excuse to make another film!

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[sirgregh]

@alanheath Just this once I can agree with you.

I have not only studied that particular period in history but my family actually was a victim of German and Soviet atrocities on Polish nation throughout the centuries.

According to this new PC version of history, millions of Poles and others died by hand of some mythical group called "Nazis" who came out of nowhere and then dissolved in the atmosphere...

I will leave you and your theories alone.

[alanheath]

@sirgregh I think I have a very good grasp of the situation in central Europe between the wars. The Kulturkampf happened before and the GG afterwards. The German Eastern Marches Society was a small group with little influence. And the Nazis were not democratically elected party by popular mandate but came to power by political machinations by Hindenburg and von Papen who then found themselves unable to control Hitler.

History is about facts, not perverting those facts to suit oneself.

[sirgregh]

@alanheath You don't seeem to have a grasp of the situation in Central Europe in 1918-1939. You are replacing the aggresive German nationalism and revisionism (reaching back to Prussian times) with some PC labelling. Read more (but not in Wikipedia pls) on issues like Kulturkampf, Prussian Deportations, German Eastern Marches Society or the General Government .Again, Nazi is an abbreviation of NSDAP - a democratically elected ruling socialist party. And it did not take place in China or Mars.

[alanheath]

@sirgregh Terms like Lebensraum and Untermensch were Nazi terms and I think that Drang nach Osten was revived by the Nazis.

I am well aware of the Nazi policy towards Poland and have documented here in some detail.

In Gross Rosen, the second largest national population in the camp was German until around 1943 as it was in many camps. 10m Germans lost their lives because of the Nazis and at least as many again lost their homes. The Nazis were - and are - the enemy of Germany.

[alanheath]

@sirgregh The thing is that there was not a referendum in Nazi Germany about an invasion and even if there had been, I doubt the result would be like that. At its peak around 10m Germans voted for the Nazis. That means that 70m did not. In 1914 the war was popular everywhere. In 1939 it was not and there was fear in Germany, somewhat allayed by 1940 although which returned with a vengeance from 1942.

Germans over35 remembered what happened after WW1 - they did not want another war.

[sirgregh]

Just to remind the terms "Drang nach Osten" and "Lebensraum". The Polish "Untermensch" was to become a servant of the Geman "Ubermensch". Polish population murdered and the remains Germanized. Soviets and Germans held meetings where they exchanged lists of Polish intelligentsia to be murdered. These were no "Nazi camps" they were German and all old folks who lived then knew it. Now PC is trying to change it. "Nazi" is just a cosy, vague term that helps to avoid the inconvenient truth.

[sirgregh]

@alanheath First of all, I have to state it once again, this time in capitals: I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE WHO IS INNOCENT. PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HE 30'S ARE MOSTLY GONE.

Let's discuss facts. If there would be a nationwide referendum in 1939 in Germany to decide whether the invasion of Poland is justified, the fact is that the outcome would be over 90% votes in favour. What do you think would be the outcome If the same referendum would be held in e.g Czechoslovakia who was Poland's neighbour then?

[alanheath]

@wyciskTV I have changed my mind. I think you are right.

[alanheath]

@sirgregh It is not a case of being PC - it is a case of stating facts. Nazism is evil and responsible for what happened. Not German people. Nor are Russian people responsible for the crimes of Bolshevism.

Or are Britons, Spanish and Portuguese today responsible for the African slave trade to America?

We can take it further. Are all white people responsible for their treatment of black people? Because if so both of us are in the guilty party there.

[alanheath]

@sirgregh It is not a case of being PC - it is a case of stating facts. Nazism is evil and responsible for what happened. Not German people. Nor are Russian people responsible for the crimes of Bolshevism.

Or are Britons, Spanish and Portuguese today responsible for the African slave trade to America?

We can take it further. Are all white people responsible for their treatment of black people? Because if so both of us are in the guilty party there.