CBC Connect with Mark Kelley: PETA Pies interview with Dan Mathews

CBC Connect with Mark Kelley: PETA Pies interview with Dan Mathews

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[trilobright]

Peta are douchebags but thirty days in jail is a bit much for pie-ing someone. Also, that had better be non-dairy creamer pie.

[MadOldPete]

@0synesthete0 you're not even responding to what I've said now, who's blaming the natives? as I've said, historically, race was a big issue, but any "haunting" of racism that remains is simply something to be set aside and transcended.

[0synesthete0]

@MadOldPete the present state of politics did not just arrive spontaneously, it followed a series of events\occurrences. its quite easy to just blame natives for their condition, but difficult to understand and fathom the systemic and systematic racism that their older generations had to bear, and as a result, directed affected, and continues to affect their present. institutionalized racism still haunts the so-called "developed" world in various ways, shapes, and forms. i hope you can see that.

[MadOldPete]

@0synesthete0 you can't negate its existence historically, but to disregard race now (not racism, but race) is the healthitest thing we can do. ultimately, for all the rhetoric about the colour of your skin not mattering, it is discussed all too often, in all sorts of contexts, as though it matters. all that stuff about "decimating and defrauding" should be remembered as a historical warning, but it shouldn't be considered relevant to modern politics. i hope you can see that.

[0synesthete0]

@MadOldPete What makes you so sure of yourself to know whether it was or wasn't an accident, huh? Well, if you read anything about the history of Canada or USA, "race" was literally THE deciding factor between life and death in some cases, and we all know which "race" was decimated and defrauded by which other "race". Ultimately, race is a false social construct, but you can't negate its existence and reality, and its relation to colonialism (and neo-), and imperialism (and neo-).

[MadOldPete]

@0synesthete0 well, it's only really a typo if it's accidental, it's important that you actually know what you're saying. and as I said, you've got to get away from the idea that the race of colonists is somehow relevant. if you're saying that, you're implying all kinds of dangerous things, and eugenics isn't far down the road. I agree with you that colonialism was, by and large, greedy and ruthless. and why are you calling me John Smith?

[0synesthete0]

@MadOldPete My bigotry?? Huh, its the truth Mr. John Smith, read a book from any country on European colonialism (ironically, including Canada). About the semantics and the typo, I'm sure you understood what I meant.

[MadOldPete]

@0synesthete0 yes, thank you for agreeing with me, although you could try to control your bigotry more. also, I think meant something like "equivalent" or "equal" rather than "example."

[0synesthete0]

@MadOldPete European colonialism is without example in the entire history of humankind. Never did any other people, with such barbaric efficiency, bring together the entire world in a bid to become what alexander or chengis khan could not even dream of. i'm not seeking retribution against anyone, i'm just listing historical truths. As George Santayana said, "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it" - so lets try to learn from the past and improve our present and future.

[0synesthete0]

@MadOldPete The same people who composed that poem killed 1500 warriors with mechanized guns in a single day, so it is quite relevant. After becoming independent, what institutions did the colonized countries inherit to modernize themselves? read that research paper on comparative development, and you'll understand the colonial origins of the backwardness of institutions in the third world. to be honest, I can't help but think that its not my views, but its the truth that you can't handle.