Who Killed Economic Growth?
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@Ilikemustard, you're ignoring the SCALE and mobility that oil provides, especially for transportation. Nothing else matches its versatility. Studies have been done on this, including the depressing conclusion that we'd have to rape the landscape with 3.8 million large wind turbines as part of a renewable energy plan to replace oil.
I think solar panels belong on every rooftop possible, but the economy should also scale down. A finite planet shouldn't be asked to accommodate endless growth.
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@nistyboy32 all those methods you listed are intermittent sources of energy (i.e. no sun = no energy, no wind = no energy). Even if they were constant, industrial civilization cannot exist on 1/4 the energy those technologies produce. If there's any 'bogey man' out there controlling everything, it's you and everyone who deflects the problem away from themselves and onto an uncontrollable force. look in the mirror; we are all in this shit together.
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None of those are cheaper than fossil fuels at this point in time.
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@Ilikemustard Duuuuuuuuuuuuude lol There are readily renewable energies that could be implemented tomorrow for so much cheaper than fossil fuels. Solar, Wind, Tidal, Wave, Geothermal just to name a few. The problem with that is that because they're so cheap and so abundant it would consequently threaten the monopolistic oil and energy giants who control the entire industry. They lobby like psychopaths to make sure that they maintain dominion. Waky fuckin Waky watch?v=pXjEfusGnIM
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Who said anything about debt?
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So until we hit the wall of oil scarcity we can further sink in the debt?
Then where will the money for that debt come from?
It is like taking a bigger credit card to cover for your previous credit card...
@4aSteadyStateEconomy
We already have substitutes for fossil fuels, they're just more expensive right now due to the abundance of oil.
What's your point, again?
Ilikemustard 2 weeks ago 3
@Analthaabe "you referred to Karl Marx"
Quote me.
hitssquad 1 month ago 2