I would love to have been able to see the look on those students faces when he said "There's is no such thing as society, not really... there just individuals" I'm sure they were like "Whaaa? No such thing as society? I don't understand."
That statement is typical of people who do not understand the difference between political and economic power. Under real Capitalism, economic power is profoundly MORAL. It is a measure of productivity, which is the MOST essential virtue needed for man to survive. Capitalism is also the ONLY system that recognizes individual rights (another concept most people don't understand).
To hell with Libertarians; their fundamental axiom is "Liberty"; they have no understanding of the prior, more fundamental ideas that make liberty possible. Pure laissez faire capitalism has never existed because man lacked the necessary prior knowledge -- until Ayn Rand -- to understand it. Knowledge is hierarchical; we needed the enlightenment, industrial revolution, early America, Objectivism - IN THAT ORDER, to make it possible.
@killerbandit This is an equivocation between economic "power" and political "power." Political power entails the use of force, economic power entails the use of offering you a benefit through trade. Economic power, in essence, is good. Economically successful corporations (or individuals) gain that wealth through giving people values.
In a truly free market, absolutely. First, there would be objective laws which protect individual rights; also, any corporation which repeatedly violates those rights would not last long, no matter HOW "powerful" they are. Lawsuits and more honest companies would emerge to deal with the offending company.
Skepsikyma is right about the necessity for COMPLETE separation of state and economy. I would add church, health, education etc. to the list as well.
Let's just all say that killerbandit can't or won't understand the concept of a free market and get over it. He's anit-conceptual and can't see things out of their current state.
@Twiggy269 I'm surprised we couldn't hear any gasps from the audience ;)
jcapcik 1 year ago
I love Yaron.
I would love to have been able to see the look on those students faces when he said "There's is no such thing as society, not really... there just individuals" I'm sure they were like "Whaaa? No such thing as society? I don't understand."
Twiggy269 1 year ago
@killerbandit
That statement is typical of people who do not understand the difference between political and economic power. Under real Capitalism, economic power is profoundly MORAL. It is a measure of productivity, which is the MOST essential virtue needed for man to survive. Capitalism is also the ONLY system that recognizes individual rights (another concept most people don't understand).
"Duke1duke1" is absolutely right.
Aristotle1905 1 year ago
@killerbandit
To hell with Libertarians; their fundamental axiom is "Liberty"; they have no understanding of the prior, more fundamental ideas that make liberty possible. Pure laissez faire capitalism has never existed because man lacked the necessary prior knowledge -- until Ayn Rand -- to understand it. Knowledge is hierarchical; we needed the enlightenment, industrial revolution, early America, Objectivism - IN THAT ORDER, to make it possible.
Aristotle1905 1 year ago
@duke1duke1 - Economic power is amoral.
killerbandit 1 year ago
@killerbandit This is an equivocation between economic "power" and political "power." Political power entails the use of force, economic power entails the use of offering you a benefit through trade. Economic power, in essence, is good. Economically successful corporations (or individuals) gain that wealth through giving people values.
duke1duke1 1 year ago
I love Dr. Brook. He is always fantastic to listen to!
amse 1 year ago 2
@Aristotle1905 -What you and every other Libertarian is suggesting has never happened in the history of the human race.... because it can't happen.
killerbandit 1 year ago
@killerbandit
In a truly free market, absolutely. First, there would be objective laws which protect individual rights; also, any corporation which repeatedly violates those rights would not last long, no matter HOW "powerful" they are. Lawsuits and more honest companies would emerge to deal with the offending company.
Skepsikyma is right about the necessity for COMPLETE separation of state and economy. I would add church, health, education etc. to the list as well.
Aristotle1905 1 year ago
Let's just all say that killerbandit can't or won't understand the concept of a free market and get over it. He's anit-conceptual and can't see things out of their current state.
zxcv73 1 year ago