Natural Selection: A Machine for Making Almost Impossible Things

Taken from a lecture by professor Steve Jones called "Why creationism is wrong and evolution is right".
http://royalsociety.org/event.asp?id=4140

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[Teghead]

@Lachdenan

The compelling evidence for evolution is elsewhere, Prof Jones is not here interested in proving evolution, he is just demonstrating an interesting point in how variation and selection did a better job than design at producing these nozzles, which is related to the interesting ways that natural selection produces unexpected things.

Here in the UK, generally christians reject creationism because it is clearly an untestable idea, and the delusion is too much for learned christians.

[gregrutz]

@Lachdenan Were bats made on the same day as birds or were the made with mammals? Were whales made with fish or with mammal land animals?

[gregrutz]

@Lachdenan People see the fossils, in order, and say ''That's evolution, it's a theory''. When in reality they are seeing the processs of evolution, a fact. The evidence clearly shows evolution, the theory shows how it happens.

[Lachdenan]

@gregrutz I honestly don't know. The fact remains that this man in the video asserts evolution to prove evolution, which is a ridiculous fallacy an educated man should be above. I don't see what that has to do with a dissection of the Bible (you know, "if the Bible doesn't talk about Neanderthals, then it must not be true"). The truth is that his fallacy has nothing to do with the Bible or anything else but his own fallacy. If you have already chosen to dislike the Bible, I can't change that.

[gregrutz]

@Lachdenan And when did God make Neanderthals? Those other kind of humans not related to us.

[Lachdenan]

@gregrutz Why would they? The Creation story doesn't go into greater detail than plants, animals, etc. They don't name a species that would affect no one and not even be known for thousands of years. If you will notice, there is an abundance of natural processes not mentioned in Genesis, as it is the "Origin" of mankind. They don't mention "crucifix" in Old Testament prophecy either (before its invention), which is a similar point of contention I have with the Jehovah's Witnesses.

[gregrutz]

@Lachdenan I don't remember dinosaurs ruling the earth for 160,000,000 years in Genesis.

[Lachdenan]

@gregrutz It would seem that things were created in an order corresponding exactly to what Genesis says.

[gregrutz]

@Lachdenan The fossils are layered like this:

In the bottom layer of rock are shell fossils,

above that is a layer with shells and fish fossils,

above that is a layer with shells, fish and amphibians fossils,

above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian and reptile fossils,

above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian, reptile fossils

and dinosaur fossils.

No human or bunny fossils are found in any of these layers.

No dating method used

Can you explain?

[Lachdenan]

@gregrutz Actually, evolution has never been corroborated in the fossil record. No species has been shown to change gradually into another. It makes no sense, as the DNA is a complete system. I wouldn't evolve half an arm, nor would I evolve holes in my skull for eyeballs. All that Creation says is that the universe, a closed system, originates from a Creator outside of said system. And good luck evolving the first reproduction! We can't even explain life in one cell.