@snarfeater The free will comes from nowhere. Again. Linguistic quibble. Look, let's say someone does something illegal. Court knows what was done and who did it, but also needs to know why in order to know how to sentence. The person could have done it in their sleep, which means it wasn't a decision. If they were awake and aware, they could either have been coerced, or they did it by their own free will. We could say it was simply their "choice," but you make a choice even when coerced.
@snarfeater Interesting. You ignore my explicit position on the free-will thing--that it's a linguistic quibble. You also ignore the explicit statement that the determinism debate and the free-will debate are two different debates, this being about determinism. Furthermore, you implicitly ignore that the debate about free-will hasn't seriously been the debate about the soul for 100 years. And after all that forced ignorance--you're not stupid, after all--you accuse MY ego of being at risk.
Quantum mechanics doesn't explicitly state that both the position and momentum of extremely small particles are indeterminable, but this assumption is the opinion of most quantum physicists. The mathematics itself correctly states that the product of the uncertainty of position and momentum has a lower-bound which is related to Planck's constant. This doesn't inherently imply indeterminacy; however no model presently exists to explain the behavior of quantum particles in a determinable context.
i disagree with a lot of your points. 1. why isn't abstraction a matter of physics? abstraction is the actions of electrical processes in the brain or with other words: cause and effect, the rule that applies to everything in the universe, probably even to quantum physics. we're just still missing the knowledge to understand them. 2. if free will isn't a thing and objects only are meaningful by humans giving them names (language) that are consistent with some kind of context, [...]
@snarfeater The free will comes from nowhere. Again. Linguistic quibble. Look, let's say someone does something illegal. Court knows what was done and who did it, but also needs to know why in order to know how to sentence. The person could have done it in their sleep, which means it wasn't a decision. If they were awake and aware, they could either have been coerced, or they did it by their own free will. We could say it was simply their "choice," but you make a choice even when coerced.
azrienoch 10 months ago
please just locate where free will comes from because all i see is a brain
snarfeater 10 months ago
@snarfeater Interesting. You ignore my explicit position on the free-will thing--that it's a linguistic quibble. You also ignore the explicit statement that the determinism debate and the free-will debate are two different debates, this being about determinism. Furthermore, you implicitly ignore that the debate about free-will hasn't seriously been the debate about the soul for 100 years. And after all that forced ignorance--you're not stupid, after all--you accuse MY ego of being at risk.
azrienoch 10 months ago
the fact that you are a slave to your chemical reactions hurts your ego
snarfeater 10 months ago
pulling the quantum mechanics card and saying you cant know is besides the point there is no magical part of my brain that has free will
snarfeater 10 months ago
Quantum mechanics doesn't explicitly state that both the position and momentum of extremely small particles are indeterminable, but this assumption is the opinion of most quantum physicists. The mathematics itself correctly states that the product of the uncertainty of position and momentum has a lower-bound which is related to Planck's constant. This doesn't inherently imply indeterminacy; however no model presently exists to explain the behavior of quantum particles in a determinable context.
Cuoin 11 months ago
You should switch to Pall Mall 100s. they last longer. lol
YouSmellLikeACat 11 months ago
This is exasperating! i only signed up in order to watch this 2 video's in the description, and they are PRIVET !! what a gip!
you should use this method on more vid's to get subscribers.
P.S
i don't real know why i used that nick as my name here... hope you don't mind ;)
AzrienochAntithesis 1 year ago
i disagree with a lot of your points. 1. why isn't abstraction a matter of physics? abstraction is the actions of electrical processes in the brain or with other words: cause and effect, the rule that applies to everything in the universe, probably even to quantum physics. we're just still missing the knowledge to understand them. 2. if free will isn't a thing and objects only are meaningful by humans giving them names (language) that are consistent with some kind of context, [...]
ShowtekGER 1 year ago
I usually like your vids, but this was bullshit. Deterministic doesn't mean determinable. Determinable by who or what?
Determinism means the future is necessitated by past events. That's it. Not predictable, not determinable by us or anyone else that we know of.
People are desperate to cling onto the idea of free will.
RecordCards 2 years ago