I'm primarily agnostic, but side on atheism most of the time

I'm primarily agnostic. I have some theories of how things might be, and I believe prayer can work, but not for the same reasons as MOST religious people. My theory of prayer heads more down the area of thought surrounding Reiki and some pagan beliefs, but I don't believe in anthropomorphizing the things we don't understand. I've seen prayer work and I've seen people do things with energy, healing, that is simply amazing.

But--I also think that we can't really KNOW one way or the other, at least, not unless we figure out some sort of mathematical formula that explains the universe, and it's NOT going to be the number 42 if we do. LOL I believe science may eventually prove religion, if that makes any sense.....

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[ChipMidnight]

Atheism is not a claim of knowledge that no god or gods exist. It is simply a lack of belief in any gods. Most atheists are also agnostics, and most agnostics are atheists. The idea that they are mutually exclusive is based on a misrepresentation of atheism as a claim of knowledge that no gods exist. To make that claim one would have to be omniscient. Given your stated position, you are an agnostic atheist, or put more simply, an atheist. Agnostic describes "why" and atheism describes "what."

[kizzume]

Hey Chip :D

What you say may be true, but unfortunately there are a large number of self-proclaimed atheists on YouTube that do push that they believe with 100% assurance that there is NO god.

[tr6tpdwn]

I have 2 questions

1. When this energy from prayer is gathered where is it sent?

I mean why gather energy unless it is sent somewhere.

if many people pray and they all send the energy to there own places

wouldnt it lose its potency to do any good?

2.Does that ring in your nose hurt any when you sneeze?

I Am the Evidence

[kizzume]

My theory on it is that the energy is always there, people can direct it where they choose. And yes, people might send the energy to their own places and it would lose potency. Either way, prayer doesn't USUALLY work, but on a rare occasion it does.

And no, the ring doesn't hurt.

[owheydusoapsk]

I guess it depends on how you define atheist and agnostic. Personally I define atheist as the position, that God, (however defined), does not exist. Agnostic is the position that you take no positive position on the question of God. So imo, you can't be both. But this is certainly hotly debated, that's just my understanding.

[kizzume]

I think with 98% assurity that there is no God, but as I don't believe in many absolutisms in general, there is that 2% chance, I feel, that there COULD BE a god.

For many people, they are right at a 50/50 on whether there is or could be a God.

And in all honesty, the people who believe 100% that there ABSOLUTELY, irrefutably is NO god, with NO possibility whatsoever, are no better than the people who are 100% sure that there IS a god, and I can see how people might view it as a religion.

[ChipMidnight]

"Believe" and "know" are not the same thing. I'm sure many theists would readily admit that they don't know there is a god, they simply believe it to be true. They aren't all gnostics. By the same token an atheist can believe there are no gods but not claim to "know" it to be true. Atheism is not automatically a gnostic position. It is most commonly an agnostic position.

[unclrick2003]

The existence of God can be neither proved nor disproved. Period. I would guess that the atheists who watched Star Wars found the idea of The Force pretty stupid sounding too. I find the idea that the whole universe created, designed and regulated itself a pretty preposterous assertion.

What we believe or do not believe is not the point. The fanatic believers and non-believers want POLITICAL POWER to support and push their viewpoint. I believe that that is the reason for the bickering.

[owheydusoapsk]

I doubt few self-labeled atheists would claim 100% surity that God does not exist. I think these labels are really more about who you want to align w/politically. I think atheism as we see today is really anti-theism, (in this country anti-Christian).