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Abrahamism is humanity's test... If we survive it, we go to the stars. If we fail it, we self-destruct. Watching one side or the other of this dysfunctional thought system blathering on in their attempt to look sophisticated and knowledgeable shows us just how far we have yet to go...
bosatsu76 1 year ago
Absolutely not. It says nothing of the mercy of God which conflicts between Judaism and Christianity. The New testement would not have a leg to stand on if it wern't for the Old. That's why they are both there! The stumbling block between Judaism and Christianity is the Identity of Messiah!
Back to Jonah, what's your opinion on the contrast of God's message from Jonah to Nahum?
I'd like
REVPIPSTER 2 years ago
"Absolutely. And this opens up the huge difference between Christianity and Islam"
The story of Jonah is found in the OT, so this is not a difference between Islam and Christianity, but between Judaism and Christianity.
1MoreMuslim 2 years ago
Absolutely. And this opens up the huge difference between Christianity and Islam. And Our ideas about the Character of God.
Do you know what Saint Paul said bout The Sacrifice of Jesus on The Cross? Especially about the views of the Jews and Gentiles about it?
and can you compare the messages of the Prophet's Jonah and Nahum?
Start with Paul's comments first though, I'd like to know what you read in the New Testament about Paul's comments.
REVPIPSTER 2 years ago
"What's the purpose of the god doing so? "
God Dying for your sins is not a valid reason, it only makes sense for the Christian. For the rest of people it's a nonsense. God forgave people without any sacrifice. Read the story of Jonah.
1MoreMuslim 2 years ago
one could do two things. Ask what for and what evidence or explaination is there, in the religion there is for the doing so?
What's the purpose of the god doing so? Jesus Christ, according to the Bible, had a reason for doing this! And when someone asks WHY, the reasons are in The Bible!
Why do you think a pagan god would become a stone? That's what you should ask. But I have not heard a pagan claim his god to have done such a thing. To compare that to Christ is mockery!
REVPIPSTER 2 years ago
"because you are rejecting my posistion based on your human and islamic understanding "
And what understanding should I use, if not human?
I never discussed what you believe, I asked a simple question, I am not even talking about Christianity.
How do you condemn a pagan that believes that God emptied himself and became something in the creation? This does not require Greek knowledge.
1MoreMuslim 2 years ago
Do you have a Bible? (An English Translation preferably) if so, then I'll guide you through the scriptures that speak about such things then at least you will know What Christians believe and where in scripture we get them from, because you are rejecting my posistion based on your human and islamic understanding without knowledge of The Greek scriptures we believe from.
REVPIPSTER 2 years ago
Jesus did this so that HE could be the Judge of This world and a true Mediator for Mankind. A Mediator has to be impartial but see everything from both sides fairly. Through Jesus Christ I have a High Priest and Mediator who knows my frailty. Through Christ Jesus, The Father, who is 100% Holy has his Justice satisfied and the penalty for our SIN paid. See its not just what He did, but Why He did it. Therefore your arguments of stones and cows are invalid and real nonsense.
REVPIPSTER 2 years ago
So God can lay down his attributes, and still be called God? God can get restricted, meaning that God ( the infinite) became Finite, and still be God. For me that is a pure nonsense. If your such a faith is justifiable, then paganism is justifiable. If one says that God restricted himself and became a cow, or a stone, how would you condemn them?
1MoreMuslim 2 years ago