Dinosaur Animation 5: From Dinosaur to bird
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4 peolple are crationists
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@samandersn No surprise, I never claimed evolution wasn't amoral. But it is only by our standards, animals and any other living organisms don't understand that, it's what helps them survive. However this does not deny altruism (a.k.a. "kindness" or mutual activities) in animals, it helps them survive just as much as a pair of intimidating horns, sharp teeth or strong arms.
By the way, there was no sudden event that made us human, it happened gradually. Just as any other feature appears.
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Needed a good laugh today so I watched this fantasy film again. Always a good chuckle when the blizard is flopping on the half finish wings and he is hoping there is light at the end of the tunnel with his useless, unformed wings! only a few more million of years to go! Also wonder what is going through the whale's mind as his teeth are changing over to baleen and he's got a useless mishmash in his mouth for a few million years before that transformation is complete! Sure miss my good teeth!
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@Chirostenotes You have world view that mixes stuff in order to make a moral world w/o Creator: Yes to equality of "Human Beings" (What day was it when Man was elevated above animals?) and No to survival of the fittest (who sent out the memo to stop competing (bullying)? Like DEVO used to sing "They say the fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live" Man is not evolving, he is devolving. I am Good with valuing all life because of the Creator. TRUE EVOLUTION IS BRUTAL and AMORAL dogeatdog
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@samandersn Survival of the fittest does not apply in human society, it is morally wrong to ther beings of the same intelligence. Survival of the fittest is true, but only in the wild. If it wasn't, then there would be no organisms, nothing at all but non-living organic material strewn about a lifeless wasteland.
Natural selection got us here, but we don't need it anymore, nuff' said. I will disregard anymore arguments about how it should encourage bullying in humans etc.
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@Chirostenotes Micro evolution exists, no question. 1 proto dog had all the genes initally to spawn all breeds today. But there is a limit to the expansion, dog will never be anything but dog. Fruit flies reproduce rapidly and give evolutionists the opportunity to evolve them. At the limits, ALL mutations are harmful and fruit flies remain fruit flies! If survival of the fittest is true then bullying shoud be encouraged, no appologies necessary to the Indians, or victims of the Holocaust.
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@samandersn Well, you see, it's a common misconception that evolution by natural selection is merely dumb-luck or chance, it is influenced by a number of factors. You should read more about it before dismissing it.
I don't want to argue about it, but in my opinion, creator or not, natural selection exists.
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@Chirostenotes To assign dumb luck, or chance, or evolution to Design is an insult to the Creator! You seem to be open to looking for answers, I would suggest C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity. He was an athiest who gradually came to grips with God. He talks about the difference between animals and Humans and the existience of morality. I just got done re-reading the Scientific American Reports issue on Perception (July 2008) and I am once again blown away by how complex seeing and preception r!
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@samandersn Possibly so... (concerning Darwin). But while I see evolution through natural selection as a fact, I see no reason that it should affect human ideals and the way our society works. I mean, even if we are apes (and birds are dinosaurs etc), we are still humans. And while our global society may not be all equal, it's on its way.
I also respect the ideals that Christianity (among other good religions) teaches, who says Christianity and Evolution must be mortal enemies?
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@Chirostenotes I appreciate your calm response! Not many keep their emotions intact when debating origins! I agree that Darwin may not have had immediate bad intentions for the writing of the book. However, he probably knew that it would gain him a great deal of notoriety and perhaps financial gain. Yet the Bible says "what profit is there to gain the whole world and yet lose your very soul?" I think at the end of his life he may have had regrets.
Oh, so that's your explanation for the liaoning fossils, they're all "doctered up"...
As far as I know, "Archeoraptor" is the only one that had any of this sort of thing. Sinosauropteryx, Microraptor, Caudipteryx, Sinornithosaurus, and others, are all known from skeletons that have been proven to not have been "doctored".
Try not basing your whole opinion on one specimen, next time.
Crassygyrinus 2 years ago 12
it went to a real bird!
cool
bubblesishot46853 2 years ago 6