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Uploaded by on Apr 19, 2007

On April 4, 2007, anti-Cheney protesters at Brigham Young University were told to surrender their protest signs and go home. One protesting student brought this up to the president of BYU, who basically told the student to go screw himself.

This was shot by Josh, Bryan, Andrew, Torben and Marissa. Cut by Steve, Bryan and Josh.

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  • @JediLDS Yes, you stand by it, but on what grounds? You brought up the bible, and I'd argue that it is, at best, unreliable. What is your evidence or valid method of determining that the statement, "the Holy Ghost does reveal truth to those who seek it in prayer" is true? People arrive at various mutually incompatible answers through prayer, so HOW do we determine which prayer-based answers are the right ones? How do you filter truth from mere wishful thinking?

  • @Tibberclaw Sounds as if you don't accept the Bible to be God's word, which is your right not to believe, of course. However, I still stand by my statement the Holy Ghost does reveal truth to those who seek it in prayer.

  • @JediLDS You cite the Bible as though it held some sort of authority. The bible says eating certain seafood is an abomination (Leviticus 11) and that you are unfit to enter the tabernacle if you are missing a testicle (Deuteronomy 23). Or, if you prefer the New Testament, it says women should remain silent in church (1 Timothy 2). It says a lot of things, some of which is contradictory and others just plain absurd. Yet you expect me to accept it as a source of epistemological wisdom? Try again.

  • @Tibberclaw "I don't think a spiritual agent tells a person a book is true or false."

    The Bible would disagree with you. Matt 21:22 - "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." Also James 1:5 - "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."

  • @JediLDS Let me guess, the "Holy Ghost" is defined by what sorts of things he will tell you, right? And of course those things are always going to be consistent with the LDS doctrines, right? So in noting this, isn't your comment hopelessly circular?

    I don't think a spiritual agent tells a person a book is true or false. I think people tell themselves what they want to hear and disguise their own feelings and wishes in an imaginary friend they call "the holy ghost." Just think about it.

  • @wReCktangle I'm sorry to hear that that's a sound you are familiar with.

  • @whanethewhip Sounds like you got a dick in your asshole.

  • @wReCktangle Oh I'm sorry but you have me confused for a dick. You see I'm an asshole, an asshole is just someone that annoys other people. A dick is someone that is controlling and manipulative towards others. So the BYU staff are dicks, and I'm an asshole. If you need further clarification feel free to reply.

  • @whanethewhip Yeah, just like you have the right to be a dick. Dick.

  • @wReCktangle Yup, BYU is a private institution, therefore the BYU staff have the right to be dicks, and students have a right to recognize staff for the dicks they are.

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