Goldwater wanted to refight the 1932 election in 1964 he failed. The tea party wants to once again refight the 1932 election, third times the charm? Subsequent republicans from Nixon to Bush jr would understand that conservatism required a synthesis between the policies of the 1920s and those of the 1930s and 1960s.
@feckingtediousgoogl I don't disagree that Clinton fucked up, and I doubt seriously Osama who hated us in the 80's wanted to help us. HW Bush was an idiot as well.
But today we do police the world. I admire Raegan's use of locals to fight asymmetric wars as a means to harass the USSR. But Reagan's goal was always the peace dividend, but when the opportunity presented itself HW Bush chose war over allowing an organic response. Legend is bin-Ladin offered a plan to beat the Iraqis but the Saudis preferred western option. Also Clinton dropped the ball on bin Ladin he could have been captured or killed in 1999.
@feckingtediousgoogl Reagan supported contras in Nicaragua, Mujaideen in Afghanistan, Kampachean fighters in Cambodia, black ops in Africa, and Solidarity in Poland. He cut off their oil through the Saudis, sabotaged gas pipelines in Asia, invaded Grenada, initiated the space defense initiative, challenged the Berlin Wall, and Reagan was dedicated to destroying Communism through a war of attrition. Not policing the world, but not ignoring threats.
Even accepting that as true, We cannot ignore that Raegan did not trying a reform the world, even the commie parts, in our image and likeness. He understood that, at best, the US can be a prime motivator for liberation in the Communist bloc, but never the angel of deliverance.
Define extremism, if it means obeying the processes and procedures of our political constitution to promote and achieve certain policy proposals that intend to expand individual self-ownership, are you being extreme?
@H1TMANactual Oh really? Because Goldwater wanted a war of attrition to collapse global communism. It's how Reagan, unlike Eisenhower, beat the Soviets.
@viletree When you consider that this country was founded through war, it's not a shocker that some sane people recognize the need to fight for certain causes, as opposed to ignoring threats and cowering in fear. Goldwater was a great candidate because unlike LBJ he knew the point of war was victory not prolonged engagement.
Goldwater wanted to refight the 1932 election in 1964 he failed. The tea party wants to once again refight the 1932 election, third times the charm? Subsequent republicans from Nixon to Bush jr would understand that conservatism required a synthesis between the policies of the 1920s and those of the 1930s and 1960s.
Seaworldexists 1 month ago
@feckingtediousgoogl I don't disagree that Clinton fucked up, and I doubt seriously Osama who hated us in the 80's wanted to help us. HW Bush was an idiot as well.
DragonBallFights 1 month ago
@DragonBallFights
But today we do police the world. I admire Raegan's use of locals to fight asymmetric wars as a means to harass the USSR. But Reagan's goal was always the peace dividend, but when the opportunity presented itself HW Bush chose war over allowing an organic response. Legend is bin-Ladin offered a plan to beat the Iraqis but the Saudis preferred western option. Also Clinton dropped the ball on bin Ladin he could have been captured or killed in 1999.
feckingtediousgoogl 1 month ago
@feckingtediousgoogl Reagan supported contras in Nicaragua, Mujaideen in Afghanistan, Kampachean fighters in Cambodia, black ops in Africa, and Solidarity in Poland. He cut off their oil through the Saudis, sabotaged gas pipelines in Asia, invaded Grenada, initiated the space defense initiative, challenged the Berlin Wall, and Reagan was dedicated to destroying Communism through a war of attrition. Not policing the world, but not ignoring threats.
DragonBallFights 1 month ago
@DragonBallFights
Even accepting that as true, We cannot ignore that Raegan did not trying a reform the world, even the commie parts, in our image and likeness. He understood that, at best, the US can be a prime motivator for liberation in the Communist bloc, but never the angel of deliverance.
feckingtediousgoogl 1 month ago
@losergrad
Define extremism, if it means obeying the processes and procedures of our political constitution to promote and achieve certain policy proposals that intend to expand individual self-ownership, are you being extreme?
feckingtediousgoogl 1 month ago
Of course it is a vice. "Extremism in defense of liberty" defines exactly the reign of terror.
losergrad 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual Oh really? Because Goldwater wanted a war of attrition to collapse global communism. It's how Reagan, unlike Eisenhower, beat the Soviets.
DragonBallFights 1 month ago
@DragonBallFights Yeah ok. Goldwater's foreign policy were in line with Eisenhower and Robert Taft. Nice try.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@viletree When you consider that this country was founded through war, it's not a shocker that some sane people recognize the need to fight for certain causes, as opposed to ignoring threats and cowering in fear. Goldwater was a great candidate because unlike LBJ he knew the point of war was victory not prolonged engagement.
DragonBallFights 2 months ago