Barbara Forrest: The Woman Texas Creationists Don't Like#5

She is NOT criticizing religion. Religion gives billions of people a meaning for life and hope for the future. She is criticizing those people who try to confuse religion with science. Scientific facts do not come bundled with meanings. They're simply neutral facts about the natural world. If a creationist assumes that the theory of evolution through natural selection is atheistic then they are ascribing a meaning that it doesn't have. Many people can accept evolution and hold onto their faith.

I'd like to understand how waiting for rapture or end of the world can make a meaningful and socialy useful life... That's completely egoist in regard of other people...

So, it's impossible for a religious person to live a meaningful life and contribute to society?? Are you saying that religion does NOT provide hope and solace to people regardless of race, culture, and economic background?? Dude, your comment simply makes no sense to me. Facts about the world must be true. Meaning, and I mean the type of personal meaning that gets us through the day and gets us over difficulties and tragedies in our lives, doesn't have to be true. It just has to work.

I meant that if they act for fear/reward after death and not naturally, it's egoist, even if contributing in a positive way to society, wich isn't often the case.

Apparently you admit to need a "psychological crutch" in saying "it doesn't have to be true. It just has to work". How can it work if not true, except by self deluding ?

BTW it's not constructive to wait for death to have a better life.

"Facts about the world must be true", then "it doesn't have to be true", sounds hollow to me...

A huge kiss for Barbara Forrest...may her DNA survive and multiply!

This Woman better be our next President!!!!!!!

this woman rocks. she not only knows her stuff, but her method of displaying it and explaining it, and the issue at hand, is as effective as it could possibly be.

At least these videos are honest enough to identify Ms. Forrest for what she is: a philosopher, not a scientist. Faced with two opposing schools of (alleged) science, she has swallowed the party line that evolution is real science, while ID is religion masquerading as science. In fact it is the other way around.

Also, ID does not proclaim the God of the Bible as the designer, only that there is empirical evidence for design. The designer could be God, the Inuit legend, extraterrestrials, etc.

Point me towards your empirical evidence for ID, otherwise you're a liar.

If life shows evidence of design and evolution isnt true. Then the designer must be a god, it cant be extraterrestrials because who designed them. ID is religious, if you watch Thunderfoots video why do people laugh at creationists part 30; youll see what Im talking about. Party line! Youre comparing scientists who constantly search for better theories when the old ones dont cut it with dogmatic religionists. I think your confusing science with the word of god which is unchanging.