The Depravity of the Bible Cannot be Taken "Out of Context"

Agman's Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLik9rRAkj4

TAE Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEm89sGjNc8

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[saxmanchiro]

How do you feel about the brainwashing you received gowing up? Do you think you will have any lingering issues from it? Do you still find your family and theistic friends difficult or frustrating to deal with or are they coming around with your position? It's been a couple of yrs since we discussed these issues and I cannot remember what was going on with your inner circle.

[ShwaNerd]

@saxmanchiro

Depending on the family members things have gotten much better (deconversion seems near-impossible, but increased moderation seems the norm). I don't have any lingering issues; the experiences of my childhood and adolescence just give me all the more motivation to undo indoctrination and unreason wherever I can.

[saxmanchiro]

@ShwaNerd So there is an effect then. You are like an ex-smoker, with more zeal to 'stamp out' lighting up(delusional behaviour) which is cool. How about your buds? Are they all aware of your stance and have they pushed you aside? Do you think you are more sensitized to god shit because of your past and find it hard to resist attacking the woo around you? Are you more militant here on YT than in your daily life?

[ShwaNerd]

@saxmanchiro

I've learned to carefully approach any public (real-life) situation appropriately, so that I always get a desired positive impact with whatever I might say. So I might not be immediately strident (can drive many theists away) HOWEVER I will never back down when directly asked about my beliefs (and I will stand by them, even ones such as the evil of faith, which most theists do find offensive).

[pantocyclus]

Do you really need to spend so much mental effort on something you don't believe?

[ShwaNerd]

@pantocyclus

Absolutely.

[RyuDarragh]

@GriffinPilgrim: Ah, but the belief system was born in the stone age, teethed in the bronze age and entered puberty in the iron age. It then stopped growing and became an eternal obstrperous teenager when the Nicean Council got done with it.

[105Mittens]

Good video...many Christians do not care to be reminded that the Bible was used for years and years to justify owning slaves (here in the Bible belt especially that happened, where I have lived all my life)...true enough some (like the Quakers) used Christianity to condemn slavery also, but they were considered kooks by mainstream Christians back in the day...the Catholic church certainly had no big qualms with slavery for hundreds of years. :(

[tdfisk]

I have a revolutionary idea, how about thinking for yourself and learning from experience instead of listening to other people to figure out what you should believe? So many people think they are intellectual because they've learned so much from all these "great thinkers". I wonder how much you've learned on your own and how much you've actually experienced for yourself. Education is merely information, experience is knowledge.

Thomas

[GayTempest]

@pantocyclus If ShwaNerd hasn't, I'll elaborate for him. It isn't as though not believing means you don't believe that the belief of others has any impact. Not just Christianity, but Islam, Judaism, and LDS also have a negative impact on human civilization as a whole. It impairs our decisions on government policy and inhibits the rights of many groups such as women, gays, and other races. We may not believe in their gods, but we know that those who do are a real and present threat to humanity.

[flexbrat]

RELIGIONS WELL FAST FORWARD 500 YRS MAYBE THAN WE ALL WILL BE A;LL FREE OF THIS CRAP ! I HOPE SO ? FOR TODAY THE SHEEPLE ARE TO MANY AN TO CLOSED MINDED !

[MobileThinker]

@pantocyclus no matter what you already think, you can always gain new information from reading something, even if it is something that you already share views with...

[Lynx787]

@pantocyclus But if you are active in it, then you are Not wasting time or effort. Daydreaming about Anything without actually doing something about it is fruitless.

About your other comment to Leks, no one Rational needs to read a book to see that sacrificing people is really murder, but religious people are Not rational. There are still "christians" today burning people alive (including young children) who've been accused of witchcraft. That's irrational, unjust and needs to be fought against.

[pantocyclus]

@MobileThinker I'm very much in favour of reading, I'm just against reading things solely to bolster your own disbelief.

[pantocyclus]

@MobileThinker I'd rather read the bible than books by famous atheists. I'm not against reading, very much the opposite, I'm just against atheists reading about atheism. It's stupid.

[MobileThinker]

@pantocyclus the thing is, without reading the bible you wont know what is in it, and you cannot make the decision if you believe or not.

[pantocyclus]

@Lynx787 I was responding to a video in which shwanerd was talking about reading multiple books by atheist authors. Yes it is mental effort. If you spend time by yourself thinking about and reading about just how much you disbelieve, you're wasting time and mental effort.