Post Tribulation Rapture - Imminence Doctrine Exposed

A short vid using scripture to expose the false teaching of an imminent pre-trib rapture and validating a post tribulation gathering of the church.

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[robbiek77]

at 2.26 skydiver626 you used this verse to back up your post trib view Joel 2.31 ...and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come".

Are you suggesting this verse, which is sold here as a great and terrible day, the day we get caught up b with the lord? And thus we shall always be with the LORD? Why would it be terrible? I'm fairly certain that scripture used in this youtube clip indentifies different events. Not the event postulated to scripture and event.

[skydiver626]

@robbiek77 Did you read the whole book of Joel? Joel 3:15-16 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: BUT THE LORD WILL BE THE HOPE OF HIS PEOPLE, AND THE STRENGTH OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. You see, there are two parts to the day of the Lord affecting 2 different groups. Unbelievers: wrath Believers: salvation. Just like Noah's day.

[skydiver626]

@robbiek77 Pre-tribbists try to portray the day of the Lord as a strict wrath filled event.Absolutely false.First the believers are caught up, then wrath ensues ALL ON THE SAME DAY.There's no 7 year time gap. Noah was wisked away the same day the wicked were destroyed. Lot was saved the same day Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. There's more to the day of the Lord then just Wrath.There's salvation. Why do you think Jesus used these examples when he was describing what his return will be like?

[Myhopeisinhim]

@mrmontatabanana

praise the Lord that you've turned to christ...but much still has to happen for him to return...such as the mark of the beast and the antichrist must come to power.

However we may indeed see some miraculous signs this year...its very possible that things will progress rapidly.

[dknezacek1]

Matt 24:30-31 is not the Rapture. Note that the word "Heaven" in scripture can mean God's home, outer space, and the atmosphere of the earth. Gen 1:8,15,20

Those indwelt by the Holy Spirit will be like Jesus when He calls. They won't need angels. These people are saints in earthly bodies and are lifted into the air as Jesus comes to destroy His enemies beneath them as they watch. Only believers will survive the Tribulation.

See thespiritofprophecy.ca

[MrMontanabanana]

6th seal: should be in december of 2012 if your still alive, the sun will go dark for three days and the sky/ atmosphere will roll up like a scroll and thats when the second coming will happen. My logic says that if the atmosphere were to roll up like a scroll I would sufocate though. I found Jesus only a short time ago and am lucky. Life is a gestation period for the soul, and the real world is non physical, hard to believe but its the truth.

[MrMontanabanana]

the 7 seals.1:white horse is the UN and the crown is the british crown.2: the red horse is Osama bin Laden who took peace from the earth, the sword is the sword of alah and the flag is red.3: the black horse is Baraq o'bama, hurt not the oil or the wine, he invaded Libiya and next Iran for oil, and has the scales of the us economy near collapse.4: Pale horse, In time of the Pandemic Flu all power will be handed to FEMA over the fourth part of the earth.5: Heaven for some6:

[kenstasia]

shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? READ the ENTIRE CHAPTER-said same things as Jesus, Paul and rest! NOW, FULLY READ HEBREWS 11 for what TRUE FAITH is! No, not just verse 1 or the NICE verses-READ ALL of it! Amen



[kenstasia]

Ever notice how Secret Imminent Pre-Trib Rapturists do that and most to Scripture? Also in 2nd Peter 3 they MISQUOTE: "10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;..." Like with Rightly Judging Others and True Faith-choosing the verses they like. Now, lets READ the TRUTH about this, "THIEF in the NIGHT"... verse 11: "in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein...

[TheWeepingEagle]

"So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Cor 1:7).

[Myhopeisinhim]

@mvmof2

That verse makes it very blunt doesn't it. The day of the Lord...the final day...when he returns with his angels who gather his elect from the four winds.

I think its the survival instinct that creates the desire to see things differently.

[Myhopeisinhim]

@bubba007sss

don't forget what verses 25 - 28 say though. When we see those things come to pass, look up for your redemption draweth nigh.

We were given these signs so that we might watch to ensure that day doesn't overtake us like a thief...the day of the Lord.

Its not saying we're going to escape in a pre-trib rapture..but that we find salvation in Christ rather than coming under the judgment for the wicked on that day.

[bubba007sss]

Am I praying for an ESCAPE? You Betcha," I want to be an Escape artist. How about you?

Plus I don't want to disobey my Lord that told me to pray always to be worthy to escape.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

If you face the tribulation with it's persecution then execution then you were not found worthy to ESCAPE