ROFL - yea, helping get rid of an international terrorist and war criminal because his citizens were begging for help had nothing to do with it.
The west doesnt hate competition - its founded on it. What it does hate is muslim terrorists that resort to terrorism because allah said the whole world must be islamic - by any means available.
>at all to say that the USA has done nothing to Iran
They havent. There is no proof of this, just accusations. The US has no control over who rises to power in these parts of the world. They DO deal with them, because they have no choice. Or are you going to say the US installed the current Islamic theocracy in Iran, once its gone and replaced?
Hmm, maybe not invading neighbour states, violating UN resolutions, and constantly threatening other states might have been a good start to prevent an invasion.
Saddam did exactly what Iran is doing - inviting the inspectors, but preventing access to what they want to inspect.
Maybe if you consider the American government the "enemy of America", maybe you should move out? Perhaps Iran is the place for you?
@israloni Israels bombing of Gazan women and children and a few hamas insurgents is definitely terrorism, Israel hopes to cleanse Gaza so that it can build more illegal settlements about. But arguing this against a zionist called ''Israloni'', is there really a point trying?
I'm pretty sure you know about the Israeli independence war. The Arabs didn't really liked the idea of it.
Lets fast forward to six days war as it is more on topic. Territory was conquered, and after a while was given back with peace agreement. Not to mention the six days war was the only war Israel started, and that's because it foreseen another war.
@berenjervin The rebellion in Libya had nothing to do with democracy. The CIA and European intelligence services were there arming and training the fighters. It was because the Western leaders have had a longstanding dislike of Ghadaffi, who was also (not coincidently) poised to begin minting a gold currency that would empower Libya's currency greatly over the West's in the midst of skyrocketing gold and oil prices. The West hates competition so it destroyed Libya instead.
@berenjervin You obviously aren't familiar with the Middle East at all to say that the USA has done nothing to Iran. The USA overthrew it's elected government in 1953 and placed a dicatorial monarch in power until the people were able to overthrow him in 1979. Then the USA tried to play the victim when their embassy that coordinated the dictatorship was stormed. Just afterward the US armed Iraq during their war against Iran. Then the USA shot down an Iranian airliner killing 290 people.
@undeadpresident
ROFL - yea, helping get rid of an international terrorist and war criminal because his citizens were begging for help had nothing to do with it.
The west doesnt hate competition - its founded on it. What it does hate is muslim terrorists that resort to terrorism because allah said the whole world must be islamic - by any means available.
berenjervin 10 hours ago
@undeadpresident
>at all to say that the USA has done nothing to Iran
They havent. There is no proof of this, just accusations. The US has no control over who rises to power in these parts of the world. They DO deal with them, because they have no choice. Or are you going to say the US installed the current Islamic theocracy in Iran, once its gone and replaced?
berenjervin 10 hours ago
@undeadpresident
>The USA overthrew it's elected government
Those werent americans.
>people were able to overthrow him in 1979
You mean the coup that established the islamic theocracy that Iranians are trying to overthrow today?
>USA shot down an Iranian airliner
Yea, that tends to happen when you have a history of hijacking airplanes, then flying towards an American fleet and not responding to hails.
berenjervin 11 hours ago
@undeadpresident
>It was the USA who sponsored Iraq
Selling weapons is not "sponsoring".
>It was the USA who
Rid the area of a homocidal dictator that even barbaric islamic states like Saudi were scared shitless of.
berenjervin 11 hours ago
@undeadpresident
Ya ya - poor Saddam. The innocent victim.
Hmm, maybe not invading neighbour states, violating UN resolutions, and constantly threatening other states might have been a good start to prevent an invasion.
Saddam did exactly what Iran is doing - inviting the inspectors, but preventing access to what they want to inspect.
Maybe if you consider the American government the "enemy of America", maybe you should move out? Perhaps Iran is the place for you?
berenjervin 11 hours ago
@israloni Israels bombing of Gazan women and children and a few hamas insurgents is definitely terrorism, Israel hopes to cleanse Gaza so that it can build more illegal settlements about. But arguing this against a zionist called ''Israloni'', is there really a point trying?
Saxophonic 11 hours ago
@devilsKrEEd
please make a distinction between terrorism and guerilla warfare.
terrorism is the use of power against unarmed forces in order to seed fear in the population and to promote political and idealogic goals.
guerilla warefare is the use of power against armed forces, period.
How is Israel a living example of terrorism? I believe it is a tough question to answer, given that definition. but aye, you seem smart,
why dont u give it a try?
israloni 14 hours ago
@TheCentralServices
I'm pretty sure you know about the Israeli independence war. The Arabs didn't really liked the idea of it.
Lets fast forward to six days war as it is more on topic. Territory was conquered, and after a while was given back with peace agreement. Not to mention the six days war was the only war Israel started, and that's because it foreseen another war.
1Stalker1 16 hours ago
@berenjervin The rebellion in Libya had nothing to do with democracy. The CIA and European intelligence services were there arming and training the fighters. It was because the Western leaders have had a longstanding dislike of Ghadaffi, who was also (not coincidently) poised to begin minting a gold currency that would empower Libya's currency greatly over the West's in the midst of skyrocketing gold and oil prices. The West hates competition so it destroyed Libya instead.
undeadpresident 16 hours ago
@berenjervin You obviously aren't familiar with the Middle East at all to say that the USA has done nothing to Iran. The USA overthrew it's elected government in 1953 and placed a dicatorial monarch in power until the people were able to overthrow him in 1979. Then the USA tried to play the victim when their embassy that coordinated the dictatorship was stormed. Just afterward the US armed Iraq during their war against Iran. Then the USA shot down an Iranian airliner killing 290 people.
undeadpresident 16 hours ago