Ethical Egoism via James Rachels, 2 of 2

Ethical Egoism, Objectivism (Rachels Argument Against)

Book: The Elements of Moral Philosophy by James Rachels Sixth Edition by Stuart Rachels


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[WarVideo]

Is this sort of a responce to Jerico constantly asserting that you cant say that one persons values are more important than another persons?

[MrCropper]

No, this wasn't intended as a response to jericomovie, but if the shoe fits he is welcome to wear it!

[ExistentialExistent]

Both the democrats and republicans send us to wars.

[pookiehohn]

I don't like the republicans or democrats right now. It's a pick your poison situation.

[greenghost2008]

I just became vice-president of the philosophy society so I can fight for egoism there. I'm also vice president of the libertarian club and we disagree alot.

[Obversity]

The rule is NOT "Have done to you as you whimsically feel like doing to others."

[Obversity]

"Live by the sword, die by the sword".

What the fuck, Cropper? Are you out of your mind? Your example designed to criticize the rule of reciprocity entails that *you* actually want your town to be pillaged -- that *you* want to be harmed.

Ugh, parrots and poor thinkers get on my nerves, and you happen to be both.

[mortivik]

Definitely, the socialization of health care has more of a direct effect on my life, as well as all the economic fiddling (which both parties do), so I'd say they're *much worse* than Warmongers. Both sides are using force, but the Warmongers are killing _less_ people, long-term.

I'd say that the party that supports the most rights is by-far the Libertarian Party. The LP is still a poison (some an-caps, some statists, little/no moral grounds for arguments), but *way* less than the Big Two.

[mortivik]

@Virtueman1:

Ethically, Objectivism is against all initiation of force, including stealing, because it puts men in irrational situations, to have to use force; this disrupts their pursual of their long-term self interest, brought about by the use of their intellect: reason.

When one steals, in a state with property rights, it causes men to continue to act against their self interest, which MrCropper discusses. Without property rights, it's "might makes right", against self interest.

[Virtueman1]

Otherwise you would be ethically entitled to steal just becase noone stopped you. Don't you agree?

[Virtueman1]

Good video. In the end you say that the primary reason for not stealing is the punishment you'll recieve from others. I don't think that's the case, it's something more fundamental like your respect for property rights or something.

[pookiehohn]

Religion is tied with politics at the core of the human mind. (In many many cases) This is very unfortunate. But at least the democrats aren't casting a vote for Jesus. (Overtly, most of the time.)