Kurds at the Turkey-Iraq border - VOA story

A Volatile Balancing Act
There is robust trade by Kurds across the Turkey-Iraq border. But pro-independence rebels, the PKK, have both governments worried

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• Kurds
• Iraq
• Turkey
• border
• PRK

[BigiApoCheHugoChavez]

ok, u dont know shit! cause if u ask any Turkish Kurd they will tell u they hate the Turkish government and love the great PKK Communist Liberators!

[wiseas]

i dont get it everytime me and a bunch of my kurdish friends have said how we couldnt speak kurdish or say we were kurdish in turkey, ppl say thats pure bullshit.

IM NOT KIDDING! for gods sakes the only ppl that say kurds are free are Turkish people

how bout u actually listen to what Kurds have to say they were opressed for the past 85 years and im one of them and im saying that the human rights for kurds in Turkey is not right!

[peyotemania]

@Gine012

WHEN ATATURK WAS DEALING WITH OTTOMAN EMPIRE GOVERMENT AND EUROPEAN FORCES...YOU WERE BUSY WITH KILLING ARMENIANS WHO HAD BEEN SEND OFF FROM ANATOLIA ...AND THIS ARMENIAN THING HAD DONE BY OTTOMAN GOVERMENT WHO HAS NO RELEVANCE WITH ATATURK...AND THEY WANTED ATATURK TO BE KILLED AS WELL.. AND U WERE IN THE AREA STILL MAKIN STRIKES AND ATTACKING SOLDIERS...AND U SAY THAT U HELPED.. I PREFER TO HAVE A THICK SKULL INSTEAD OF HAVING A BODY WITHOUT VERTEBRATE LIKE U..

[peyotemania]

@Gine012

instead of sayin stories (stories of "hooker with golden heart " )....tell me which country you had in history ?...you had no country in past...and u dont have still...SO JUST DONT SPREAD YOUR LIES THROUGH INTERNET...AND YES MY NATION HAD SYSTEMATIC KILLINGS...I DONT SAY NO...WE HAVE BEEN ALSO MURDERED BY MANY NATIONS...LIKE EVERY BIG NATION, WE HAD THIS IN OUR HISTORY...BUT INSTEAD OF SITTING AND CRYING..WE TRIED TO CREATE OUR OWN NATION AGAIN...AND U..U R TERRORIST WHO KILLS PEOPLE

[Gine012]

@peyotemania as intelligent as you are I am sure nothing I say will go through your thick skull

Historical events aren't your thing, that I can see. Of course when one lives in Turkey and grows up with the Turdish ideology, its hard to see whats really in front of you.Your countries history is full of genocidal events as much as lies. Kurds had an Empire (the Media) but of course you will deny that since you are really dumb. About your Atatgay and how Kurds helped him creat Turkey,I wont comment

[peyotemania]

@Gine012

tell me your many countries in history ? wwhat diplomacy you had ? you never had any country...bigger nations invaded ur lands...and u payed taxis and served them....even your big leader fukface APO is saying the same...you never had a country...you never had a parlement...and you never had a army...AND YOU WULL NEVER HAVE...YOU WILL ALWAYS STAY AS TERRORISTS WHO TRIES TO SELL HEROIN WITH MORE PRICE..

[peyotemania]

@Gine012

with ur wonderfull knowledge...can u tell me when kurds helped turkey when we were stating our own country in 1920../..besides at that time they were busy of creating strikes against us..making pact with enlighs who were trying to occupie our territory....and from all of this...they were also busy with killing armenians which ottomans (not turkish goverment; not mustafa kemal) kicked away from anatolia....

and tell me a 1 kurdish country in history ? l

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

no i see all my comments on this video. could you please say what you disagree with? you dont know me nor the person who put up this video, so you don't know who has more credibility with the subject of history. also please state who is "we". if you are referring to the kurds, they allied with the persians thousands of years ago, but not since. they were allied with the ottomans and not given autonomy, only as much as any other province within the ottoman empire, but they were treated well.

[Gine012]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez either you were smart enough to delete your own comment or the admin of this site deleted your commente for you, since he knows history much better thayn you do. Kurds have not come with the Persian, Kurds are a people of their own. We allied us with the Persian, thats where the name Persia comes from. Kurds had many countries, wich none of them were taken forcefully, Kurds did this by diplomacy. And yes we had autonomy, the ottoman empire gave us one, dumb retard

[3choBlast3r]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez WRONG again, that is the BDP not DTP they got arrested for links with the PKK.

Most people in Russia and some other post communist countries want it back? HAHA biggest BS ever of course there still are communists, but why do you think it failed in the first place? You obviously don't know what you're talking about just like when you where claiming communism improved democracy.. Seriously kid, get a proper education

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

@3choBlast3r thats funny cause turkey banned the DTP and arrests its leaders! XD

so you dont talk bs bout shit!

also its funny, most pple in Russia and some other post communist countries want it back.

[3choBlast3r]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez Also ... don't react on my post without really replying on it .. it's pathetic you're scared for my answer so you make sure I can't ..

[3choBlast3r]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez You obviously don't know what communism is, communism and democracy ARE OPPOSITES it's like saying communism is good for trade it supports capitalism ..

Where did you get your education from? And you realize that Kemalism (which I am a huge supporter of) is SECULARISM based on Ataturk.

Communism is and Atheist ideology and is anti-religion, secularism isn't an ideology but a part of it separating religion from government.

[3choBlast3r]

@Gine012 Before the LONG Kurds there where Hati's, Hittites, Troyans, Greeks, etc. The Kurds simply came here with the Persian invasions, they NEVER in their history achieved autonomy. Turks came more than 1000 years ago and since we came we have been the owners of this land. We can't help the fact that Kurds never ever achieved autonomy, what gives them the right on to have autonomy on soil that has been ours for over 1000 years? And they aren't even supported by the majority of the Kurds!

[3choBlast3r]

@BigiApoCheHugoChavez haha yes that's why the majority votes for AKP or CHP and even more MHP then DTP. Don't talk BS, majority of the Kurds support Turkey.

Also F*CK communism, biggest fail in human history

[Gine012]

@KennstDuWayne haha you are to talk with, you and your Turkish nation loves reading the best selling nazi book in Turkey called "Mein Kampf"

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

bahaahahahahaa! neither are anti islam! part of PKK when they split up joind hisbollah! altho most kurds consider them traitors and that faction is now good and gone! communism in itself is not against any religion u idiot! it promotes secularism in itself which is extremely important for democratization and modernization! this is perhaps the only good quality turkey ever had after ataturk! there are pple who practice islam in pkk too! ahh some iraqi kurds are against it yes, but not most.

[3choBlast3r]

@BigiApoCheHugoChavez I know many Kurds most are anti PKK and anti Communist (which is anti Islam) and even the Iraqi Kurds I know are against it .. I know a Iraqi Kurd who HATES ocalan

[Reqrezentin]

Kurdistan will never exist. I am not personally against it but lets keep it real, it won't happen.

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

welll u are a very fuckd up person to say such things! u need to see a phsych my friend! european kurds and kurds in turkey have very much the same views and the same percentage of support for the PKK exists. one difference in Europe tho is that the kurds from other countries in Europe have of course mixd with turkish kurds and have essentially also come to believe the PKK is the true future along with the KRG for an indipendent Kurdistan.

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

ohh and as far as the attacks go, if u even see ex gerilla anti pkk pple say, the turks couldnt have done anything. PKK have caves and underground bunkers turks could do nothing about from the air. turks did not do a land assult according to NATO. there is a BBC interview of some saying that on youtube here on one of these videos. its estimated by german sources that roughly 90 pkk members were killd and admittedly on the PKK website, a couple of high personnel were killed in the bombings.

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

now i know ur bullshitting big time. please go live in turkey for a bit, try diyarbakir and u will hear what they have to say about that, watch their football matches while ur at it! XD 80% of kurds in turkey support DKP party and when it was banned kurdish cities erupted in riots. there is no doubt among any statistics that a majority of Kurds in Turkey agree with the PKK, however, as this video shows, many civilians are caught in between the age old fighting of fascists vs. Communists.

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

jaa if u actually read non turkish articles u will see, like even in CNN and BBC for example out of all of them u could read, even they say the numbers turkey reported are most likely falsified. jaa and ur a fool for thinking such western lies! u must listen to CNN and the BBC! XD or actually u prbly listen to the most laughable news program in the world! fox news! XD ahhhhhh u are a fool! however, when he knowingly killd someone, im sure i would have done the same given the circumstances.

[3choBlast3r]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez The Turks killed over 500 terrorists when attacking the Iraqi border after 3/4 days.. that's a failure ? haha dude, you are an epic fail ...BTW like apo, Che was a mass murderer and a terrorists, you dumb commie

[3choBlast3r]

@BijiApoCheHugoChavez With their whole heart, believe me and I'm talking about Turkish Kurds not Iraqi Kurds because I only know one. The same goes for most Turkish Kurds, they hate pkk because it gives them a bad name. European Kurds just can't handle the truth. There are a lot of pro pkk-kurds but most of them are anti pkk. And those who are pro PKK are fucking traitors and should be shot dead, their corpses should be burned and their ashes should be thrown in the sewer among peoples shit.

[BijiApoCheHugoChavez]

other thing the US ambassador forgot is that they only are limited to 250 coalition soldiers or so in the Kurdish Autonomous Republic, so any kind of coalition led attack on PKK would fail even worse than when the turks tried! LOL!