On the BBC there's a series called 'Wanted Down Under', and some of the people are exactly like that - there was a woman from Hull saying if this was the Australian experience you could keep it. Life imitating art?
@revol148 The Greens also believe that 'more people is better', which doesn't help the environment at all. If we want to help the environment, we MUST consider now human population levels. 7 Billion people too many. If we decrease population, we can increase quality of life due to more resources being available, and save costs on infrastructure. I believe in a self-sufficient Australia, not relying on foreign countries to make consumer goods and clothing, or to hand over minerals.
@masterawesomeish well it seems that the situation in Oz is the same in the US and UK.There is a feeling the the populace get the politicians they deserve - people in the west are too apolitical/apathetic/disinterested - the end result is that you end up with political parties almost identical to each other and completely void of ideology.
@masterawesomeish you are more than welcome to join myself and @lapalad in this discussion! On balance I agree with lapalad that Oz is not so screwed as western Europe/north America - you at least are not stuck in the worst recession since the 1930's - you should also be especially thankfull to China who are paying top dollar for all your minerals! Oz is indeed a dry country - the situation with the Murray river is a taste of things to come - the Oz green party should get its act together!
@revol148 That basically what happened to our Labor party as well, infiltrated by capitalists believing in fairy stories called the 'free-market', and other neo-liberalist bullcrap theories which doesn't make any sense. Now we have two parties in the nation that create problems, and no solutions.
What the hell is going on in this comments column? Australia is equally as screwed up, plus it has no secondary industry so we can't manufacture OUR own goods for OUR own consumption, due to us to sucking cock to China and other countries, We already overpopulated as it is (NOTE: Australia is a very dry country, we cling on to the green bits, Which is scarce) due to the free-market 'more is better' mindset. our unions are weak, and the rich always get their way.
@lapalad as with your answer to my questioning the massive suicide rates in Oz I'm NOT suggesting that the UK has the answer - and neither am I putting one forward here (not my field).I am suggesting that the UK is fucked as with many other western countries in the world - the US is the extreme example and one where the UK is heading.Seriously if there is a paradise available on this planet I would move there asap.What is the current figure of emmigration to OZ by the way? (just curious to know)
@lapalad we are CERTAINLY discussing capitalism here and it is EXACTLY because of the there-is-no-alternative-to-capitalism theory as to why Western europe is seriously fucked.When Greece pulls out of the Euro in the next year just look at the chaos which will ensue.I'm no cheerleader for communism but as with (some) of the protestors camped outside St.pauls cathedral would say surely there has to be an alternative to what is currently on offer! Why did you bring the Irish in to your answer?
On the BBC there's a series called 'Wanted Down Under', and some of the people are exactly like that - there was a woman from Hull saying if this was the Australian experience you could keep it. Life imitating art?
kmfw72 1 month ago
@revol148 The Greens also believe that 'more people is better', which doesn't help the environment at all. If we want to help the environment, we MUST consider now human population levels. 7 Billion people too many. If we decrease population, we can increase quality of life due to more resources being available, and save costs on infrastructure. I believe in a self-sufficient Australia, not relying on foreign countries to make consumer goods and clothing, or to hand over minerals.
masterawesomeish 1 month ago
Why is it that every time I watch a comedy skit, the comments are furious political debates?
eastman9 1 month ago
@masterawesomeish well it seems that the situation in Oz is the same in the US and UK.There is a feeling the the populace get the politicians they deserve - people in the west are too apolitical/apathetic/disinterested - the end result is that you end up with political parties almost identical to each other and completely void of ideology.
revol148 1 month ago
@masterawesomeish you are more than welcome to join myself and @lapalad in this discussion! On balance I agree with lapalad that Oz is not so screwed as western Europe/north America - you at least are not stuck in the worst recession since the 1930's - you should also be especially thankfull to China who are paying top dollar for all your minerals! Oz is indeed a dry country - the situation with the Murray river is a taste of things to come - the Oz green party should get its act together!
revol148 1 month ago
@revol148 That basically what happened to our Labor party as well, infiltrated by capitalists believing in fairy stories called the 'free-market', and other neo-liberalist bullcrap theories which doesn't make any sense. Now we have two parties in the nation that create problems, and no solutions.
masterawesomeish 1 month ago
What the hell is going on in this comments column? Australia is equally as screwed up, plus it has no secondary industry so we can't manufacture OUR own goods for OUR own consumption, due to us to sucking cock to China and other countries, We already overpopulated as it is (NOTE: Australia is a very dry country, we cling on to the green bits, Which is scarce) due to the free-market 'more is better' mindset. our unions are weak, and the rich always get their way.
masterawesomeish 1 month ago
@revol148 Totally agree with you there
lapalad 2 months ago
@lapalad as with your answer to my questioning the massive suicide rates in Oz I'm NOT suggesting that the UK has the answer - and neither am I putting one forward here (not my field).I am suggesting that the UK is fucked as with many other western countries in the world - the US is the extreme example and one where the UK is heading.Seriously if there is a paradise available on this planet I would move there asap.What is the current figure of emmigration to OZ by the way? (just curious to know)
revol148 2 months ago
@lapalad we are CERTAINLY discussing capitalism here and it is EXACTLY because of the there-is-no-alternative-to-capitalism theory as to why Western europe is seriously fucked.When Greece pulls out of the Euro in the next year just look at the chaos which will ensue.I'm no cheerleader for communism but as with (some) of the protestors camped outside St.pauls cathedral would say surely there has to be an alternative to what is currently on offer! Why did you bring the Irish in to your answer?
revol148 2 months ago