Lawrence Krauss and Michael Behe debate **

g12er's video from July 28, 2008

Lawrence Krauss and Michael Behe debate intelligent design creationism and Darwin's Black Box.

Visit Krauss:
http://krauss.faculty.asu.edu

Shermer and Dembski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_QuT8at-e8

Ruse and Dembski: [vid]

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Science & Technology

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• Lawrence
• Krauss
• Michael
• Behe
• creationism
• intelligent
• design
• Dover
• psuedoscience

[ScientificBob]

@heiningerjohn "everything that is popping in and out of existence at a quantum level is an "effect" and not self-existing"

Nope. Those are actually true random events. Laws of causality don't really apply at a quantum level.

"Thus, "In the beginning God"" non sequiter. And a quite stupid one at that.

[ScientificBob]

5:45

It sounds to me as if he is trying to take away the power of the scientific method.  It's simply ridiculous

[saburius]

Krauss is right on the money. Intelligent design is nothing more than creationism clocked as science. Unfortunately for them, there is nothing intelligent about it. Having an imaginary celestial dictator and hearing voices in one's head is a serious mental illness. These people are a danger to themselves and more importantly to civilization at large.

[dt28469]

@ajboyer Wow, wonderful point. That is very true!

[ajboyer]

We design because we're inspired by Nature; design evolved from Nature.

End of discussion. You're welcome.

[Nederlanderization]

@heiningerjohn You are so deep that you converted me to the american variant of christianity.

[AestusL4]

@heiningerjohn non sequitur + strawman=fail

[heiningerjohn]

According to Krauss Nothing is really Something much more than nothing. Moreover, the entire cosmic sum of what comes out of something, that is really much more than nothing, cannot sustain itself, as the universe finally runs down to an ultimate state of maximum entropy and heat death, where it can do absolutely nothing. Meaning, that everything that is popping in and out of existence at a quantum level is an "effect" and not self-existing, nor it's own cause. Thus, "In the beginning God"

[illywacker1]

The process of evolution is a fact. Populations of organisms can and will adapt to selective pressure. This is most evident from microbial resistance against antibiotics and human driven evolution like agricultural and dog breeding. The latter are most familiar because we select for the most useful and flamboyant traits for us. What isn't known as fact is what drives evolution naturally, because there are so many things that can influence survival and reproduction. Con’d

[illywacker1]

You may think it's survival of the fittest, and yes, that's often quoted, but WHAT is fitness? It's not as simple as "social Darwinism" where the most selfish survive. Why? Because it's clearly evident that many social species including humans benefit from a level of altruism and community. Evolution is a lot more complicated, but every researcher in the field has already accepted that evolution occurs.