Feminists indeed want freebies, and that's exactly why they identify as representing half the population. And indeed men who call themselves want freebies as well as at the very low price of their thinking faculties. The proof that feminism is about absolute power for women is represented well by the fact that there is no end-point. Their ideas will obivously never hold sway because it would essentially require a social totalitarianism and censorship which won't happen any time soon.
@bs17 Indeed we have gone over it and you're behing dishonest when you say, "you use facts and evidence" where it's been resolved that Hitler's ideas of racial supremacy and hierarchy are entirely unrelated to genetic variation and evolution. He believed that dominant traits where ingrained wholly in a single race, I do not. Interracial dating will eventually also weed out women who carry an underserved sense of entitlement. People who demand a living and produce nothing will have no future.
@professorfoxtrot "All forms of feminism want freebies for women." Not true. Listening to talk radio hosts spew verbal diarrhea does not make one educated on a subject. There clearly is no point in continuing this conversation. I make points with evidence; you make unsupported, idiotic claims; I rebut your claims; you call me an emotional bitch. Circular. At least you've nicely made an ass of yourself for all the world to see.
@bs17 I didn't claim that all feminists hate men but that all forms of feminism from liberal to radical in the 21st century are based on demanding freebies and claiming additional rights that men don't have. i.e. the right to a job and a wage of their choosing. What legislated rights do men have that women are denied in first world countries? Absolutely none.
@bs17 (CONT13)...you know little, if anything, about the various subgroups within feminism, and the conflicts over what the term should stand for and encompass. There are certainly feminists who are misandristic and obsessed with playing victim, but there are many others who claim a moderate feminism that seeks to eliminate existing sexism towards men AND women. Please do some research on this subject so you can better understand it before you make ridiculous generalizations.
@professorfoxtrot Sigh. We went over the Hitler thing numerous times, I gave facts and evidence to show that the comparison was only logical -- you just whined. Once again, do you see the irony? I'm using facts and evidence, making arguments, and you're blathering on and on like you're at some therapy session for men whose wives won't make dinner anymore. Not exactly the picture of perfect male stoicism, now are you, honey? And it's also very clear that...(CONT13)
Your "proof of bigotry" is your charge of "using only RACIAL groups as examples - i.e. Muslims." When I informed you that muslim is not a race but a RELIGION you tried to squirm by saying that when I referred to "Muslims in Southeast Asia" that I was referring to "racial groups - Arabs." You absolutely ignored the two facts that Muslim is not a race, but a religion, and that muslim s-east asians are NOT ARABS! If I had been caught saying something so stupid, I would have not have stuck around.
Sexist? hahaha who's claiming to the victim here? Women are more prone to act on their emotions than men. It's sexist but true. Want to hear another sexist comment? Men have penises, girls have vaginas. These are vertible facts, but feminists don't want truth, they want sensitivity as it suits them. That's the difference between you and I. I seek truth, you demand ignorance for ideological goals.
@bs17 But YOU ARE an emotional women- that's calling the kettle black. As for wallowing in self pity, I'm not the one who's claiming oppression. I don't to associate myself with any social group based on exclusive rights because they benefit me exclusively. That's you. Feminists are like panhandlers who sell their grievances in exchange for money. Thus you are trying project onto me exactly what you are. You're only defense is that those who disagree with you are like Hitler.
@professorfoxtrot (CONT13)...half of this discussion in wallowing in self-pity about how the evil little woman is victimizing you, by pointing out that your beliefs, at least as they were initially state, correspond with those of Hitler. Do you see the irony in calling me the emotional zealot with a victim complex, when this entire conversation you've actually played that role to a tee?
Feminists indeed want freebies, and that's exactly why they identify as representing half the population. And indeed men who call themselves want freebies as well as at the very low price of their thinking faculties. The proof that feminism is about absolute power for women is represented well by the fact that there is no end-point. Their ideas will obivously never hold sway because it would essentially require a social totalitarianism and censorship which won't happen any time soon.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
@bs17 Indeed we have gone over it and you're behing dishonest when you say, "you use facts and evidence" where it's been resolved that Hitler's ideas of racial supremacy and hierarchy are entirely unrelated to genetic variation and evolution. He believed that dominant traits where ingrained wholly in a single race, I do not. Interracial dating will eventually also weed out women who carry an underserved sense of entitlement. People who demand a living and produce nothing will have no future.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
@professorfoxtrot "All forms of feminism want freebies for women." Not true. Listening to talk radio hosts spew verbal diarrhea does not make one educated on a subject. There clearly is no point in continuing this conversation. I make points with evidence; you make unsupported, idiotic claims; I rebut your claims; you call me an emotional bitch. Circular. At least you've nicely made an ass of yourself for all the world to see.
bs17 8 months ago
@bs17 I didn't claim that all feminists hate men but that all forms of feminism from liberal to radical in the 21st century are based on demanding freebies and claiming additional rights that men don't have. i.e. the right to a job and a wage of their choosing. What legislated rights do men have that women are denied in first world countries? Absolutely none.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
@bs17 (CONT13)...you know little, if anything, about the various subgroups within feminism, and the conflicts over what the term should stand for and encompass. There are certainly feminists who are misandristic and obsessed with playing victim, but there are many others who claim a moderate feminism that seeks to eliminate existing sexism towards men AND women. Please do some research on this subject so you can better understand it before you make ridiculous generalizations.
bs17 8 months ago
@professorfoxtrot Sigh. We went over the Hitler thing numerous times, I gave facts and evidence to show that the comparison was only logical -- you just whined. Once again, do you see the irony? I'm using facts and evidence, making arguments, and you're blathering on and on like you're at some therapy session for men whose wives won't make dinner anymore. Not exactly the picture of perfect male stoicism, now are you, honey? And it's also very clear that...(CONT13)
bs17 8 months ago
Your "proof of bigotry" is your charge of "using only RACIAL groups as examples - i.e. Muslims." When I informed you that muslim is not a race but a RELIGION you tried to squirm by saying that when I referred to "Muslims in Southeast Asia" that I was referring to "racial groups - Arabs." You absolutely ignored the two facts that Muslim is not a race, but a religion, and that muslim s-east asians are NOT ARABS! If I had been caught saying something so stupid, I would have not have stuck around.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
Sexist? hahaha who's claiming to the victim here? Women are more prone to act on their emotions than men. It's sexist but true. Want to hear another sexist comment? Men have penises, girls have vaginas. These are vertible facts, but feminists don't want truth, they want sensitivity as it suits them. That's the difference between you and I. I seek truth, you demand ignorance for ideological goals.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
@bs17 But YOU ARE an emotional women- that's calling the kettle black. As for wallowing in self pity, I'm not the one who's claiming oppression. I don't to associate myself with any social group based on exclusive rights because they benefit me exclusively. That's you. Feminists are like panhandlers who sell their grievances in exchange for money. Thus you are trying project onto me exactly what you are. You're only defense is that those who disagree with you are like Hitler.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago
@professorfoxtrot (CONT13)...half of this discussion in wallowing in self-pity about how the evil little woman is victimizing you, by pointing out that your beliefs, at least as they were initially state, correspond with those of Hitler. Do you see the irony in calling me the emotional zealot with a victim complex, when this entire conversation you've actually played that role to a tee?
bs17 8 months ago