Floyd Brown shit artist

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[Bompins]

Hey John... you talk like a homo.  What's up with that?

[j0hnwi11iams]

Then you won't mind if I spend a little time with your girlfriend.

[j0hnwi11iams]

There is a difference between choosing your friends (in which the right to free association IS the right to discriminate in your personal life) and barring individuals from access to your business (that exists to serve the public). Certainly one can make the case that anything that might conceivably require some kind of licence can be dependent to a principle of non-discrimination. I think there is a marked delineation between private life and public business.

[starforce74]

Your remedy taken literally would prohibit anyone from owning real estate. Who can truly claim to be free of bigotry? I for example discriminate against racists and terrorists.

I'm too young to remember the 70s but I do like to read history. I've read about the bus fiascos in Denver (needed integration but never had legalized segregation?) and NC specifically. Classic examples of the failure of discriminating to end discrimination. I can't say I know specifics about it's effects on Boston.

[starforce74]

He did not leave out Locke's property clause. He included it in 'pursuit of happiness'. Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours:

"A right to property is founded in our natural wants, in the means with which we are endowed to satisfy these wants, and the right to what we acquire by those means without violating the similar rights of other sensible beings."

Your notion of natural resources and real estate as public property seems to reference the first pillar of communism.

[starforce74]

The DofI does not confer any rights or powers.

If something that is self evident needs to be defined then how is it 'self evident'? Your definition of 'self-evident rights' is simply one of the self evident rights.

The Constitution grants power to the federal government, puts certain limits on the states whilst leaving the states free to do anything that's not prohibited in the Constitution, and declares more self-evident rights (free speech, right to bear arms, etc.).

[starforce74]

As an aside, thanks for turning me on to Daniel Dennett. I'd never heard of him before. I've been checking out the links on his Tufts University homepage and have found them thought provoking. He sounds like someone I could sit down with so I could pick his brain. I love a good philosophy debate :)

[j0hnwi11iams]

One remedy to discrimination is to confiscate the real estate aspect of the property, so that someone who discriminates is not allowed to own real estate. Recompense him at market value, but take it away just the same.

I lived in Boston in the 1970's so I got to see the bus issue up close. I will agree it was a fiasco, mostly because the added hardship made things worse for everyone. It also stirred up a lot of justified anger. It was an obvious mistake.

[j0hnwi11iams]

Jefferson specifically left out Locke's property clause. There is more than one kind of property. There are natural resources and real estate, which begin as public property and taken from the public domain through war and human conflict. Then there is the product of labor which man creates and no other man should have claim to. Property haa complex combination of the two types. A person has a right to the property he creates, not the property he has stolen from the public.

[j0hnwi11iams]

It confers RIGHTS to persons, it delegates POWERS to the state. A right is by definition a boundary by which power is not allowed to cross. Those self evident rights are by definition (if you read the entirety of the DofI) the protections from the abuse of power that prevent men from otherwise overthrowing their government. The fact that such a government exists that protects human rights is evidence that rights exist.