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Frederick Antony Ravi Kumar Zacharias (born 1946) is an Indian-born, Canadian-American evangelical Christian apologist and evangelist. Zacharias is the author of numerous Christian books, including Gold Medallion Book Award winner Can Man Live Without God? and bestsellers Light in the Shadow of Jihad and The Grand Weaver. He is also president of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, host of the radio programs Let My People Think and Just Thinking (heard weekly and daily, respectively, on Christian stations across the U.S.), and visiting professor at Wycliffe Hall of Oxford, where he teaches apologetics and evangelism. Previously, Zacharias studied as a visiting scholar at Cambridge University and held the chair in Evangelism and Contemporary Thought at Alliance Theological Seminary from 1981 to 1984.
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@txfreethinker >>those women deserved to be slaughtered?? That's pretty evil
--You kill others, expect to be killed. If for you that is evil, then I don't know from where you get those morality to discern it is evil, remember? Is all relative according to you.
>>You would think an omniscient god would be able to move upon those evil women's hearts and reform them instead of just killing them
--God warn you, not force you; if He force then there is no such thing as freewill nor love.
HushAndLearn 2 hours ago
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@txfreethinker >>There is no justification for any of those things. Your god is evil--just admit it.
--Of course there is justification, because those women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.
Killing the spirit is worst than killing the flesh, so those woman were killing the spirit of Israel & they have to die according to the law eye for an eye in OT.
HushAndLearn 13 hours ago
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@HushAndLearn ">>Nor can it explain why God clearly commands that children be killed, victims marry their rapists, and non-believers be killed
--In the same passages will tell you why."
There is no justification for any of those things. Your god is evil--just admit it.
txfreethinker 14 hours ago
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@HushAndLearn "For you is all relative, so that which is good/bad for you, might be bad/good for others, is all relative according to you." No, that's a strawman argument that you Christians just wont stop using. We have evolved to the point where we are civilized enough to develop a code of ethics without consulting a deity. Basically, most atheist hold to: do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else. And love as much as you can. My ethical code is far superior to you god's.
txfreethinker 2 hours ago
@txfreethinker >>No, that's a strawman argument that you Christians just wont stop using
--Because is a fact, not straw man involve
>>We have evolved to the point where we are civilized enough to develop a code of ethics without consulting a deity
--I wonder why some people are Republicans and others are Democrats. Some support abortions & others don't. No such thing as civilization involve yet into what you call "ethics"
>>do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone
--Abortion?
HushAndLearn 2 hours ago
@txfreethinker >>My ethical code is far superior to you god's.
--No wonder why Irreligion has killed more people than any other religion in the world o.0
HushAndLearn 2 hours ago
@HushAndLearn So, it basically sounds like OT Israel had a blood-thirsty tyrant who resorted to violence and even genocide, instead of persuasion, to get his point of view across! "Kill the men, women, children AND the babies! And kidnap the virgins to be your wives!" My neighbor has more goodwill than that! Does this god even know the meaning of goodwill??
txfreethinker 2 hours ago
@txfreethinker >>it basically sounds like OT Israel had a blood-thirsty tyrant who resorted to violence and even genocide
--Eye for an eye. The problem is not genocide, the problem is killing one illegitimately.
>>instead of persuasion, to get his point of view across
--They were warned
>>Kill the men, women, children AND the babies
--Aren't you going to die one day too? The problem is not death, is where we are going afterwards
>>My neighbor has more goodwill than that!
--Relativism ;-)
HushAndLearn 2 hours ago
@HushAndLearn So, those women deserved to be slaughtered?? That's pretty evil. You would think an omniscient god would be able to move upon those evil women's hearts and reform them instead of just killing them. Even today, there are people like me who are much more humane than the OT god. Let me ask you something: Say one of your children became an atheist and started leading Christians towards atheism. Then god commanded you to kill him/her, would you do it?
txfreethinker 3 hours ago
@txfreethinker >>people like me who are more humane than the OT god
--For you is all relative, so that which is good/bad for you, might be bad/good for others, is all relative according to you. So don't complaint since there is not such thing as evil
>>one of your children became an atheist & started leading Christians towards atheism
--I'll warn him; but not force him. According to the new covenant, God already told us not to kill, so He shouldn't tell me to kill anyone, God will take care
HushAndLearn 2 hours ago