Ravi Zacharias - Born to be good or born to be evil.mpg
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Quakerman...at least I did my part in correcting ur erroneous statements about the Buddha's teaching. Whether u choose to repeat that erroneous statement is not my responsibility.
matreyia 2 months ago
Quakerman, u commit the same common errors as those who do not know Buddhism in these videos. The goal NEVER was to eliminate ALL desire. It is to recognize & abandon unwholesome desire & cultivate wholesome ones. Please learn about things before commenting.
matreyia 2 months ago
@matreyia Very astute. Watching RZ, Michael Ramsden, John Lennox and william lane craig, I have become better able to spot self-defeating statements. 'Everything is relative except this statement.' 'There are some things man cannot know.' and, my fav 'God does not exist ... and He is evil.' But here you imply that Buddism is self-refuting. Amazing. Do I summarize correctly - 'If the goal is to eliminate all desire, then the elimination of all desire removes even this very goal'
quakerman7 2 months ago
We are born with the inherent attribute of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam ate both equally. Man is not totally evil or good but he is entirely powerless because he is flesh. All flesh is powerless to sin.But not all sin is evil in the same degree. Christ came to make us alive, true but alive unto what.? To be new creations born from above with complete new virtue neither good nor bad but of Spirit life Virtue. Amen.
polopowers1 3 months ago
@abangean - For was there ever anyone who could take one copper penny with him to the afterlife?
Ignorance of the temporary unreal nature of material things causes desire & attachment to them. When the body dies or the material things decay - suffering inevitably follows those who are still flooded with attachment and desire for them.
Why? Because their desire is for themselves or the objects to "renew their existence."
matreyia 4 months ago
@abangean - so in short, Desire in general is not the problem, rather it is the attachment to things which fade away which is the cause of suffering. Be careful to see that being unattached to things is in no way being unappreciative of them. The teaching is this: Enjoy the things you love, but when they fade away, let them go and accept their fading. Enjoy ur life while u live, but when u fade away, accept it and let go. Thus suffering will be curbed.
matreyia 4 months ago
@abangean - Nobody can teach clearly the 4 Noble Truths in 4 simple sentences such as presented in Wikipedia, Temples, or Books. Indeed, volumes have been written on the matter which explains the meanings of the 4 Noble Truths.
Ravi Z. is certainly ignorant of the profundity of the teachings & shows it clearly by saying such ludicrous things. If Desire in general caused suffering, then ridding urself of it would also rid urself of the desire to attain enlightenment...which is clearly absurd.
matreyia 4 months ago
@abangean - Friend, the 2nd Truth - "Desire/Craving which leads to renewed existence" IS NOT a general indictment of DESIRE itself. This type of Desire specifically has to do with attachment for things which r impermanent - whether it is the Self, the Other, or some pleasurable Object.
The root cause of this Desire is IGNORANCE ie: not knowing/seeing the impermanent nature of such things.
Only learned students of Buddha Dharma can elucidate the teachings of 4 Truths with absolute clarity.
matreyia 4 months ago
@matreyia 4 noble truths.
abangean 4 months ago
There is no "Good" nor "Evil" except for in the minds of men.
This man is WRONG in saying that the Buddha said, "desire is the source of suffering."
The correct statement is that IGNORANCE is the source of suffering.
This man is uneducated in Buddhism and if he debated "desire" with monks, then those monks either were unlearned in the sutras or they did not understand him.
matreyia 4 months ago