Iraqi MPs against US bases

US Seeking 58 Bases in Iraq, Shiite Lawmakers Say
by Leila Fadel
BAGHDAD - Iraqi lawmakers say the United States is demanding 58 bases as part of a proposed "status of forces" agreement that will allow U.S. troops to remain in the country indefinitely.

Leading members of the two ruling Shiite parties said in a series of interviews the Iraqi government rejected this proposal along with another U.S. demand that would have effectively handed over to the United States the power to determine if a hostile act from another country is aggression against Iraq. Lawmakers said they fear this power would drag Iraq into a war between the United States and Iran.

"The points that were put forth by the Americans were more abominable than the occupation," said Jalal al Din al Saghir, a leading lawmaker from the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq. "We were occupied by order of the Security Council," he said, referring to the 2004 Resolution mandating a U.S. military occupation in Iraq at the head of an international coalition. "But now we are being asked to sign for our own occupation. That is why we have absolutely refused all that we have seen so far."

Other conditions sought by the United States include control over Iraqi air space up to 30,000 feet and immunity from prosecution for U.S. troops and private military contractors. The agreement would run indefinitely but be subject to cancellation with two years notice from either side, lawmakers said.

"It would impair Iraqi sovereignty," said Ali al Adeeb a leading member of Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki's Dawa party of the proposed accord. "The Americans insist so far that is they who define what is an aggression on Iraq and what is democracy inside Iraq... if we come under aggression we should define it and ask for help."

Both Saghir and Adeeb said that the Iraqi government rejected the terms as unacceptable. They said the government wants a U.S. presence and a U.S. security guarantee but also wants to control security within the country, stop indefinite detentions of Iraqis by U.S. forces and have a say in U.S. forces' conduct in Iraq.

The 58 bases would represent an expansion of the U.S. presence here. Currently, the United States operates out of about 30 major bases, not including smaller facilities such as combat outposts, according to a U.S. military map.

" Is there sovereignty for Iraq - or isn't there? If it is left to them, they would ask for immunity even for the American dogs," Saghir said. "We have given Bush our views - some new ideas and I find that there is a certain harmony between his thoughts and ours. And he promised to tell the negotiators to change their methods."

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/10/9520/
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Leaked document says US plans for permanent bases in Iraq being discussed with Iraqi gov

Nadim al-Jaberi is a senior member and former secretary-general of Fadhila, a Shiite party that controls the Basra provincial government. The group, which holds 15 seats in parliament, withdrew last year from talks to join al-Maliki's cabinet after complaining of US interference.


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Khalaf al-Ilyan is one of the three leaders of the Iraq Accordance Front, parliament's largest Sunni Arab bloc with 44 of the House's 275 seats. Last year, he played a prominent role in the Sunni decision to walk out of the Cabinet in protest of al-Maliki's policies

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[GooseHuntCunt]

cont... or neighbouring countrieds like Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Turkey to act as a cover for their rape and pillage of our country and natural resources. Hell, now even the Yanks given up and are competing for the exploitation as it's much easier than keeping their promise and giving us security thanks to all of us Iraqi's stupidity.

Wake the fuck ip people, if America goes, we wont at all get better. It'll get worse. Just see how it'll go.

[GooseHuntCunt]

If those Iraqi politicians care so much about our soveriegnty, they wouldn't have Iran and the Ayatollahs' dicks up their asses, nor tolerate all the Iranian sponsered militias or even reside in Iran with their Iranian wives and kids.

The US just wants bases there to prevent the growing Iranian influence in Iraq via their proxy militia armies or the traitorous politicians we have now.

Mark my words the instability in Iraq is all caused by Iran trying to proove the US wrong cont...

[RevolutionaryJam]

I am Scottish

bringing the troops back is a start in Iraq as they are making things worse not better

[ikweetnietook]

so you think bringing the troops back makes things better in iraq, you fucking hypocriet americans!

[addaadollah]

"wilmaohman" you are absoltutely, positively, whithout the slightest shadow of a doubt full of shit. You are one of two things. You are either a fucking ignorant asshole who would vote for a republican if they promised to kill you if elected, or a damn purveyor of lies and propaganda. I won't try to pass judgement on which it is, suffice my view as FUCK YOU!

[0urGaia]

wilmaohman, simple fact is you don't kill 100,000's of iraq children during sanctions (admitted by US ambassador to the UN) to get rid of a man that a court of law is convicted of killing 420 people. Its all about imperialism, outlined in the book "grand chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski.

WMD..Lie; Inspectors thrown out..Lie; Lie after Lie after Lie. Just cannot believe anything that comes out of the US anymore, it is not the proud country it once was.

[wilmaohman]

ourgaia; in the 60s gas was $0.25 a gallon.we had a so called gas shortage in the early 70s. everything we consumers use keeps rising in price, even during the cold war.if our goal was controlling the oil industry we would have left in the 90s when we run sadaam out of kuwait b4 he built up his military forces.sadaam broke the cease fire agreement. he and his sons were rape and plundering iraq.he and his sons were given 48 hrs to leave iraq or there would be military intervention.he refused

[111generic]

if the coalition had not prevented sadaam's takeover of all the middle east and sadaam and his demon spawn sons attempt to take over and control of all oil fields...*buzz*... FAIL

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and 911 happened because bush sat on his ass evry day after August 6 2001

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[wilmaohman]

if the coalition had not prevented sadaam's takeover of all the middle east and sadaam and his demon spawn sons attempt to take over and control of all oil fields,the price of a gallon of gas would be $10.+ a gallon.if the insurgents would stay out of iraq we wouldn't be there. 911 happened because clinton didn't keep his word to the un to help remove sadaam. bin laden thought we were all weak like clinton who never retaliated against attacks against america..do your own research.

[0urGaia]

Oil was a lot cheaper before america started f***ing around in the middle east.