My experience of mankind project = Bad.
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I experienced no bullying, no abuse. As an elder on the NWTA weekends, I would challenge any staff men who did this.
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Hi, It's unfortunate that you didn't connect with this training. I've seen thousands of men with transformed lives as a result of the training, myself included. I was totally given a space to express the feelings that were blocking my spiritual growth. Why don't you go back and do it again? You may connect this time.
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Hey so sorry to hear that you had a bad experience on your weekend. MKP is about masculinity not sexuality or race or color. Get over it.
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@MrNightlyProductions I understand some of the reasons behind the ritual you describe, but I do agree that it is very homosexually oriented. On the weekend there is special care taken to make it clear that homosexuality is embraced and celebrated. Its not a very masculine group, IMO. Lots of broken people trying to help each other, but its not a group of men I would ever wish to associate with.
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It is good, in my judgment, that you have owned your experience and opinion. I think you might have had a bad experience with someone who abuses power. MKP has been a very awesome experience and life-transformative for me.
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No I am not homophobic. I do not have a fear of homosexuality. I hate homosexuality. Your leftist political views would call it "Heterosexist" or strongly advocating heterosexuality. I think men who are "straight" and do these kind of things voluntarily really need to evaluate themselves. Maybe see a therapist, but real men don't do humiliating and gay shit like this.
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It sounds like you are homophobic. There are many heterosexual men who do this stuff; thus it is not a "homosexual" thing and I would think that many gay men would take offense to what you've said. Men's empowerment is about conjuring up the wildness that is in our being; at the root of our human being animal
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I do apologize for you experience of abuse. I have been involved with MKP for 4 years and I haven't experienced what you have. Maybe it is possibly a UK thing. Yes, it is a bit harsh the way we do introductions at the NWTA weekends. Where the men are all dressing in black and are forceful and demanding. Yet, this is only reflecting our shadow. It takes a courageous man to face his shadow esp. when it's full of abuse. MKP has helped me heal and recover from Hell
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MKP is not a cult. In cults:
People are controlled, there is one fanatical leader, people can't leave, people are forced to turn over their assets, when people leave they are threatened with violence, can't question anyone, punishment is involved, usually believe in some extreme beliefs, etc. MKP is not like this. It is a choice and anyone can leave at anytime. All things are options and can be taken or left. Anyone can become a leader. We don't let anyone have too much power.
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I do apologize for you experience of abuse. I have been involved with MKP for 4 years and I haven't experienced what you have. Maybe it is possibly a UK thing. Yes, it is a bit harsh the way we do introductions at the NWTA weekends. Where the men are all dressing in black and are forceful and demanding. Yet, this is only reflecting our shadow. It takes a courageous man to face his shadow esp. when it's full of abuse. MKP has helped me heal and recover from Hell
Sorry about that. To bad you saw it as abusive...did you ever think you're projecting your previously endured abuse onto the weekend? Yes the weekend is intense and designed to bring shit up, but as far as not having a safe place to express yourself, I don't believe you. Sat. is designed to do just that, give each man a safe place to look at his shit, express it and heal it. If you didn't take advantage of that time, then I c a case of believing your own projections and not letting it out.
magysticmedia 1 year ago
@magysticmedia Thanks for your empathey. I appreciate that. MKP recently paid out $75,000 over a Wrongful Death lawsuit and there are MKP Survivors groups on the internet. MKP has many classical hallmarks of being a cult. Cults help many people which is why they are so popular. Cults also harm a minority of their members. If you research into cults it becomes obvious all cults are
like this e.g. Scientology, Osho etc.
MKP is identical to other cult groups. MKP has numerous cult hallmarks.
meandhim45 1 year ago
@meandhim45 Yes,I"m completely aware of the lawsuit. MKP put out mass notifications about this & didn't hide or slant the issue. Yes, I"m saddened by this event & hope no one is ever hurt again.
Cult. Yes, MKP, cuz of it's native Americ. rituals and military like greeting is looked @ as a cult...Though, a cult directs a group towards a 'doctrine' or set of beliefs outside themselves & my experience of MKP is about the journey inside ourself...the search for my own truth. 2 me that's Freedom.
magysticmedia 1 year ago
@magysticmedia MKP did slant the $75,000 payout as a moral victory for them, as evidence that they done the right thing. If you read the MKP homepages you will see this. Stop being naive, more people will be hurt. Here in UK, MKP men told me they knew of 3 men who died shortly after attending MKP-NWTA.
How many more men will die after attending MKP's weekend boot camp?
You and MKP are willing to harm innocent men to make yourselves feel good.
That is cult like behaviour.
meandhim45 1 year ago
How sad that you perceived the weekend the way you did. That sounds nothing like the weekend I did or like the 12 I have staffed. It goes against the protocols and the concept of the weekend to abuse them. I regret your experience of the weekend and also hope your crusade against MKP is not successful. MKP has brought great peace and joy into my life.
wolfdaddy195 2 years ago
WolfDaddy195, Sorry I removed your other posting by pressing Remove instead of Reply. Sorry.
With the greatest of respect to you. You seem to be lying about the contents of the MKP weekend event.
People do get hosed with cold water, people go hungry, run naked through woods and all the other things your previous posting denied.
Plus a whole lot more.
Sorry to say brother but you are misrepresenting the truth about what happens during MKP event.
Stop misrepresenting or I will delete.
meandhim45 2 years ago