russ carnahan leaves healthcare forum

On 7/20 at Forest Park Community College, Russ Carnahan's staff prevented me from asking a question as he left his healthcare forum. The unasked question is this: Will the healthcare bill wave sovereign immunity and allow people to sue the government if the new healthcare administration is complicit in the death or injury of a patient? More on my blog:

http://rebootcongress.blogspot.com/2009/07/carnahan-healthcare-forum-report-5...

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[psycho26shon]

@MichaelJGrant blue cross blue shield bitch gets me seen by the doctors that wont see you bruh! from ny to cali. plus im on the platinum plan. but what do you know about working for a living? and even if you got sick and its because of bad luck, well, i feel i shouldnt fit your bill bro!

[Isbadd]

more doctors are dropping out everyday. I advise you to get to know your personal doctor and offer him cash incentives to keep treating you after he drops out of the system.

[MichaelJGrant]

Aeonicentity, in what part of the galaxy is the planet you live on where the private insurance allows you to choose the person who runs your medical decisions? Every hear of things like HMO or PPO? I have Medicare, a government run single payer plan, and no one tells me which doctor I can see, when, nor for what reason. Most doctors take Medicare, a few don't.  However, more doctors by far take Medicare than any private insurance. By your comments, I gather you have never been seriously ill.

[MichaelJGrant]

Health insurance companies are ALREADY regulated by every state. How's that working out for you? Health insurance companies DO need to be closely regulated by an entity large enough they can't threaten nor pay off. That's the Feds. Right now, the health insurance companies hold all the cards. The ability to regulate them is limited by their ability to cancel all their policies which would be a catastrophe without a government plan as a backup.

[MichaelJGrant]

I believe our rights are under attack. I believe in habeus corpus, free speech, due process, and all the other civil rights we are supposed to enjoy. As I recall, it was the Bush-Cheney Administration that wanted these curtailed, not liberal Democrats. These liberties should not be confused with psuedo-freedoms like the "right" to suffer and die for lack of healthcare or the "right" of insurers to ripoff the American people.

[MichaelJGrant]

First, the officers in the blue golf shirts, many of whom I know, are FPCC security. They don't work for Rep. Carnahan. They go to great lengths to assure EVERYONE'S rights and safety are protected. There was a time and place afforded for you to ask questions. What you show obviously wasn't it. Rep. Carnahan was provided safe passage while at the same time you weren't tazed nor did you "accidentally " fall down one of the tower stairwells in handcuffs. This time, at least.

[Aeonicentity]

I think you miss-understand that because I oppose government intervention in healthcare, that I automatically support no reform, or the removal of insurance companies from the equation. However, now that you bring it up, at least the private insurance system allows you to CHOOSE the person who runs your medical decisions. I would be more in favor of a system where the removal of all health insurance is implemented and healthcare goes entirely on an all cash system. This would cut the costs 50%.

[dougmanjones]

Or the insurance company who pays for your medical treatments?  Please read what you just wrote.

[Aeonicentity]

Any time you enable someone to pay for any aspect of your life, you give them power over that aspect. Like the Parents who control your spending habits by reducing allowance, or the banker, who controls your ability to sell your house because they're paying for it.

Do not EVER pretend that by letting the government pay for something you are not giving up rights or personal decision making. Even if they're not spelled out in the constitution, your still losing rights.

[dougmanjones]

Assuming you're right (this is a big leap, by the way), what's the alternative? Anarchy? No thanks.

Also, if you haven't noticed...you have free speech. That's how you can write what you write and not be arrested.