Moon Landing

Well, actually I was kinda inspired by your remarkable transformation from saying thinngs like "Dude you need to lay off the..." to a few replies later saying "until then I bid you adieu"LOL...I thought the transformation was so funny I thought I might give it a try...But sillyness aside....really....is this what you are down to. Sticks and stones are not gonna hurt my arguements and this is all youve got left to throw...your starting to just look ugly....stop. Or argue for real with science.

If it's real science you want, bring it on. Not parroted rubbish you've heard from your equally gullible North-American counterparts. The devil is in the detail - and given that you can't be bothered to attempt to disseminate between capitulate and concede (other than parrot them from a thesaurus) then you lack the intellect or intelligence (or perhaps both) to argue science. Now you're confusing "straw man" with "ad hominem" - this disregard for the basic of logical fallacy is pathetic.

Hello there smidoid I just wanted to make a comment. I am a fellow skeptic of this moon hoax. I wanted to just say, SHUT UP! This Frank nut is making a fool out of you and you are not even realizing it! He is obviously a much more logical thinker than you. I am suprised that he believes the way he does, but he does, & he can argue his point much better than you. So my advive is give up. I don't know enough about this subject to argue it with him and neither do you. You will keep losing. Period.

Well smidoid old buddy.....I did give you real science...You tried to explain it away, and I showed you that you where completely wrong. Then you just resorted to calling me names and attacking me without truly trying to tackle the ideas, just dismissing them.
PS You said that I was confusing "ad hominen" with "straw man" even though I never used either one of those terms....so how is that possible?! Tellya what bring some o' whatever UR smokin and we'll bury the hatchet over the peace pipe K?

You called me ugly - that's ad hominem, when you were resorting to straw man attacks on my arguments. Where, precisely, did you offer any REAL evidence? I know how long the conversations took - I was there, listening to them on a black and white TV.

E.G. A circular argument has to be given by a single speaker to make it circular.

You haven't offered a single scrap of testable evidence other than figures we can't validate against recordings we don't have. It's that simple. Show me EVIDENCE.

Ok.....so youve showed Ive supposedly used ad hominem and straw men...even thought I dont agree (by the way I did not mean that you where literaly looking ugly! only that the way you were acting was ugly!! I thought that was obvious. The evidence has been easy to find the whole time. I could find a clip but I dont think a 20 sec clip would be very convincing. Unless you want me to copy hours of footage and send it to you I suggest you go to the library! That is exactly what I did to verify this

Not agreeing with someone does not make them ugly; unless your command of the language is too limited to find a better word. There isn't room on this "board" to explain the errors in your reasoning, either.

Once again, you're making statements without backing them up - the onus is on you to post the unedited tape. 10 minutes of original, unexpurgated material would be more than enough.

If it exists.

Oh I forgot to finish my first thought...You state I used straw men and ad hominen arguements......Which I dont agree with but I wont argue that. What you said was that i was confusing the 2.....which I do not.. Also I just realized....YOUVE SEEN THE EVIDENCE IVE GIVEN YOURSELF You state that the rec. should only have 1:25 delay (which I proved wrong) & you state that they do indeed have such a delay and sound stilted. HOW DO YOU KNOW U said the tapes "dont exist" after all LOL

2.5 seconds is the round trip time. HOWEVER. If we hear the reply from moon first and then control answer, there is NO delay at all. For instance.

Moon to NASA: "The Eagle has landed"
NASA to LEM: "Roger that, the eagle has landed"

NO perceptible delay. LEM's *reply* would take 2.5s to get back, of course.

BUT this is academic.

Yet, I haven't HEARD a scrap of evidence. You sound like an ignorant creationist citing evidence that you can't produce.

NOW POST REAL EVIDENCE SOME OR SHUT IT!

Dear smidoid, will you kindly shut up. You are not truly ignorant of the fact that someone can be ugly simply by the way they are acting are you? You seem to be completely delusional. How you can argue there would be no delay under any circumstances totally boggles the mind. Frank, as misguided as he may indeed be is just making a huge fool of you sir. There are plenty of examples of unedited footage. And by what you've said you have seen some. Are you trying to make non hoax believers look bad?