Obama commemorates 1965 civil rights march in Selma, AL

Full story at http://www.thebluestate.com/2007/03/v...

Presidential candidate Barack Obama returned to Selma, Alabama, the site where the civil rights movement began 47 years ago. He spoke at the same church where black leaders first organized to push back against the oppressive forces that were behind the intolerance in the south just two generations ago.

This excerpt of Obama's speech was a slap in the face to those who claim the Illinois Senator is "not black enough." He preached that had it not been for the civil rights movement in Selma, Alabama, he would not be alive today.

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[jacero10]

Turns out his parents met BEFORE Selma. Selma had nothing to do with it. His parents had nothing to do with Selma. He is a FUCKING liar.

[JackJack33624]

Big Dummy was already four years old when he claims he was conceived in Selma. Is he that stupid, or does he think his audience is that stupid, or can he just not stop himself from lying?

[birdmanofbooze]

nice FAKE black slang Obama...what a fraud and panderer you are!

[baracalypse]

His mother must have had a Hell of a time pushing out a 4 year old.

[busby3141592]

Also, please don't call me a Clinton apologist - I prefer him over the people he ran against in 92 and in 96 but it doesn't mean im particularly found of what he did in office himself, I think he was a decent president don't get me wrong - but he isn't someone I would apologise for.

I do like Nixon though, and I would apologise for him in some things, so maybe that will surprise you.

[busby3141592]

I don't think Clinton should ever have had to say anything under oath about a blowjob to be honest, don't you agree?

I mean really when it comes down to it is it's none of anyones business who sucked his cock - and it was weaseled in by the republican party at the time.

But he shouldn't have lied, sure I'll agree there.

Is lying something that bothers you in all politicians or just the ones you disagree with?

[LechDharma]

You echo the sentiment of many Clinton apologists I heard back in those days: "Big deal, he lied about blow-jobs in the oval office. It's NOT important." "He's the President; he's entitled to do things like that, as long as he does his job." etc. Yes, the voting was "partisan"----which showed how corrupt Washington had--and HAS--become. The bottom line is that the perjury law DOES NOT make "exceptions" for knowingly lying under OATH about something "embarassing."..Clinton should have resigned.

[busby3141592]

Sure lying under oath is perjury and if Clinton did that then he perjured himself, I don't particularly care because it wasn't about anything that was particularly important to the government - the whole affair was one of the most partisan political things to ever come about.

It was a blowjob, from a fat intern.

Sorry, it's hard to get me excited about that.

Now if you wanna talk about some of the awful things that Clinton did then thats fine, and he did quite a few of them.

[LechDharma]

The word "fraud" is entrenched in the English language as being any person or any thing that is falsely presented as being true with the INTENTION of gaining something (monetarily or otherwise). The word is NOT just a "legal term" any more. A "fraud" presents himself or herself as something he/she is NOT. Clinton lying to the American people on TV---and shaking his finger at "us"---is ONE THING (fraud), but lying under oath to a federal grand jury is perjury. No matter WHAT he lied about.

[busby3141592]

If it's not fraud in the legal sense of the word then it's simply not fraud.

We can say it's a lie sure - but the Lord of the Rings is a lie in the same way that this is.

I believe president Clinton is a liar, and despite the fact that it's none of our business who gave him a blowjob he shouldn't have lied about it.

All president's lie however and I'd rather they lie to me about a blowjob than anything more serious.

[LechDharma]

How about we call it what it is? FRAUD. NOT in the "legal sense" of the word....but, in the sense of intentional "false misrepresentation" for personal gain.

Many things in "Dreams from My Father" have been proven to be false.

Clinton was BOTH a fraud AND a perjurer---despite his tortured redefinition of "sexual relations" in defense of his lying under oath---and despite the Senate's policially-corrupt verdict in finding him NOT guilty of perjury.

So far, this President is merely a "fraud."

[busby3141592]

It's not perjury just because hes a politician - perjury has a very specific legal meaning which you alluded to in your comment.

He used certain aspects of what went on in that city, town, state to tell the audience that he gets it - he gets that what they did, and what happened there - and all those other little ripples helped him get where he is today.

To say that it's perjury is nonsense, was Reagan perjuring himself when he spoke about welfare queens? No, ofcourse not.